Dear Lisa and Dot,
I do agree that in this specific case <figure> is not the correct tag, but the problem remains that the use of <figure> seems too restrictive, and does not alwasy allow one to insert the figure where it physically sits on the page or in the flow of the text.
I am dealing with medieval manuscripts in which miniatures often appear at the start of chapters, before any headers. Although placing a <figure> there is allowed in P5 or P4, it then excludes the <figure> being followed by a <head> (P5 sees the figure as an alternative to head, as far as I understand). Ideally, I think I would want figure to be allowed anywhere in the <text> (i.e. like milestone elements), but that may be a bit too unrestrictive.
Dr. Godfried Croenen
Director of Graduate Studies
School of Cultures, Languages and Area Studies
University of Liverpool
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From: TEI (Text Encoding Initiative) public discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dot Porter
Sent: 14 May 2008 22:26
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Subject: Re: <figure> on first page of letter, annotation after the <closer>
Regarding your first question - if you're using P5, rather than using
the <figure> element you should take a look at 11.1 Digital Facsimiles
(in the chapter "Representation of Primary Sources):
section describes various methods for linking page images to the pages
using the @facs attribute. The most simple method (if you only have
one image per page) is to indicate the file using @facs on <pb/>:
You can also list all your image files within <facsimile> in your
header, and point from your <pb/>s to items in that list.
<graphic xml:id="page1" url="page1.jpg"/>
If you aren't using P5, I encourage you to look into it! In any case,
<figure> really isn't the tag you want here (I just saw Amanda's
reply, and she's right that <figure> should be used to note figures or
illustrations on a page, not the page itself).
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Lisa Spiro <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> We're running into a couple of problems with a collection of letters that
> we're marking up. First, we're trying to include page images at the top of
> each page using the <figure> element so that readers can easily compare the
> transcription with images of the original letter. However, as I read the
> divTopPart and divWrapper content models, <figure> must come after <opener>
> and <salute>. Is there a valid way to place a <figure> immediately after
> the <div> opens? Should we be looking at some other solution, or just live
> with <figure> appearing after <salute>?
> Similarly, in several letters the recipient has made annotations after the
> sender's signature. One way to treat the annotation would be to mark it as
> an <add> or <note>, but we get a validation error when we try to put either
> after <closer>. We could treat the annotations as a separate <text> (which
> seems unsatisfactory because the annotations refer to the content of the
> letter), or we could include <note> or <add> within <closer> (which doesn't
> reflect the structure of the letter). What would be the preferred method?
> Thanks for any help!
> Lisa Spiro, Ph.D.
> Director, Digital Media Center
> Fondren Library, Rice University
Dot Porter, University of Kentucky
Collaboratory for Research in Computing for Humanities
Center for Visualization and Virtual Environments
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