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AUXLANG June 2008, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Overcompounding

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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jens Wilkinson

> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:24 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 	> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jens 
> Wilkinson
> 	
> 	
> 	I don't know if "peace-bird" would be a good idea.  Ever
seen Mars
> 	Attacks?  Okay, it's science fiction, but the idea of a dove
being a
> 	symbol of peace is still culturally based.  
> 
> I'm not sure how well known it is that way. Aren't doves 
> sometimes used in Olympic ceremonies? That would seem to 
> imply that people are at least aware of it. Just like the 
> Greek flame. People don't necessarily know the deep meaning, 
> but at least they are aware it is a sacred symbol. 

I rarely watch sport so I don't know.  I've seen the dove used as
symbol but it's still something that's just not intuitive.


> 	How about just calquing
> 	the scientific names into NP?
> 
> I hope you're joking. Scientific names could be taken as is, 
> but I can't imagine calquing them. Aren't most named after 
> people or places? The name of the genus for doves is columba, 
> and apparently this comes from the Greek word for "diver". So 
> "diving bird" could be used, but I doubt that's as well known 
> as "peace bird". To me culturally, "diving bird" would refer 
> to a peregrine falcon. 

No, not really joking because it's not any worse than idiomatic uses
like you mentioned.  It will maintain the purity of the language so
you don't have a bunch of synonyms to deal with.  Having to learn
both "canine" and "dog" is a bit much when it would be easier to
have one word for the whole canine family, then compounds or other
descriptors to narrow it down to a specific breed.  One of the
biggest problems with English is its bloated vocabulary.  We have
terms base on anglo-saxon, Latin, Latin-via-French and Classical
Greek all mixed together.  It would be much easier on a student of
we lost redundancies like "penta-" or "quint-" and just had "five".

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