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Re: restricted semantics language

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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nils Schäffer

> > I have an oligosynthetic loglang that I've been working on.  I'm
> > still not sure how many simple primes I'll have but I'm ultimately
> > working on as few as I can possibly get. The biggest obstacle right
> > now is that I'm attempting to create a system of phonosemantics to
> > underly the basic morphemes.
> 
> phonosemantics sounds interesting. does this mean that you invent a
> phonosemantical system on your own from scratch or are there any sources
> from other languages that you refer to? that's about the only thing i could
> think of that wouldn't have to be "a priori" in my language, if there are
> good reasons.

You could say I came up with it on my own, but then again, there are aspects where I didn't.  What I'm attempting is something based on known universals.  Unfortunately I haven't found much on the subject, and what little I have found seems to be geared toward the advertising and marketing trade as a way to create what are alleged to be catchy names for products.

I'm trying to work around the simple universal tendencies that are known.   Front vowels [i] or [e] seem to indicate "near", "small" while back vowels are the opposite.  There's all some sort of connection between "small" and amelioratives while "big" or "distant" seem to have a pejorative sense.  Frontal consonants also tend toward the same meaning as front vowels.  This interestingly does leave me with some things that do match some natural languages.  The first person I have is "me", the second is "to", and the word for "small" (really a gradation marker) is "pi".  Some ideas are a bit loose in their interpretation but still work.  I use /n/ for "absence" so it can mean "no, not, none, nothing, black/dark (absence of light), zero, ..."   I have /d/ to indicate things like "divsion, split, two"; /b/ for "round, curvy"; /f/ for "removed, beyond, bad; /r/ for "liquid, flow, motion", /k/ for "sharp, corner."  



> unfortunately i think that i initially gave the impression, that the
> language that i am interested in would have to be  oligosynthetic. that is
> not the case. i anticipate hundreds or perhaps thousands of  primitives. the
> "restriction" in "restricted semantics" was meant to be qualitative, not
> quantitive.

This is just my experiment in minimalism.  I don't really intend to take it to the point of Toki Pona or AUI but want to create something as minimal and logical as I can without making it unspeakable.  Phonosemantics is really giving the oligosynthetics to a sub-level.  My biggest issue right now is that I have a simple CV(n) syllable shape for each morpheme and a relatively small phonology.  I've made up a table to lay out my schema with initial+final combinations and this leaves me only about 214 monosyllables to use.

What I have now are 

	Initials:  / j x h k d_Z t_S r\ l z s d t n w f b p m /

	Finals:	/ i e a o u ai au in en an on un /

	Disallowed:	/ji/ and /wu/

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