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CONLANG  August 2008, Week 5

CONLANG August 2008, Week 5

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Re: Average life of a conlang

From:

Lars Finsen <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:38:27 +0200

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Logan Kearsley wrote:

> quoting Jörg Rhiemeier:
>> I know very well what you are talking about.  It is similar with
>> me and Old Albic.  Whenever I find out something about the language,
>> it feels more like *discovering* something that has always been there
>> than like *inventing* something that has never before been anywhere.
>
> I love it when that happens. Had it happen to me just yesterday, in
> fact, when I discovered the difference between formal prose and poetic
> forms of relative clauses in one of my langs.

I love it, too. So much that I actively encourage it to happen, by  
giving authority to existing material and approaching the work rather  
more as a medium than as a creator. This effect is reinforced by the  
fact that I produced a lot of this material in my youth, decades ago,  
and I don't remember the creation process well any more. Years tend  
to bestow authority on any creation anyway.

Yesterday I uploaded the first online geographical information about  
Uriania on http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/geografi-eng.html

Here are listed nearly all the place-names I know about. The only  
ones omitted here are those that I feel certain are parts of towns.  
There may be some more that ought to be removed for that reason, and  
there may be a small number that has been removed mistakenly. There  
are also a small number of place names I believe to exist in sources  
that I haven't explored yet.

I have made careful adjustments to a few of the names. After all, the  
first of them came up before I was 10 years old and some of them have  
an undeniable aura of naivety about them. In some cases the Urianians  
living there will have to live with that, but in others I have  
tentatively decided to relieve them from it, and maybe some more will  
suffer that fate. I still have the original names on paper anyway.

This work that I did yesterday also gave me another valuable insight  
in Urianian linguistics. I was surprised to see so many Urianian  
names in districts where Urianian isn't spoken anymore. Almost  
invariably these are small places, with the exception of the biggish  
town Canton - probably Kondaton formerly.

The thing with these names is that the numerous composite ones of  
them don't at all show the same signs of eliding the IE composition  
vowel like the ones in Uriania proper do. Formerly I thought this was  
an old change and even included it in Proto-Urianian (which I have  
called Old Urianian here before). Now it seems to be recent, so I  
have some revising to do in my oldest texts. Onomastics, too. I guess  
now the PLN Ursamsa will be Urusamsa, and the PN Ebergantos will be  
Eberogantos, for example. I face a struggle with the metrics of the  
poetry.

Some statistics of probable Urianian names: Byntland east: 23%,  
south: 15%, west: 42%, north: 45%; Azuria southeast: 39%, but all off  
shore, south: 36%, southwest: 12%, northeast: 30%, north: 36%,  
northwest: 37%; Urduk region: 95%, Xeria region: 98%, rest of Uriania  
proper: 100%.

LEF

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