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AUXLANG  November 2008, Week 1

AUXLANG November 2008, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Acceptable ties (Was Re: Obami)

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deinx nxtxr <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:20:53 -0500

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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of steve rice

> > ....  I too will pull my support
> > for NP as long as it assumes that name, as I would for any
auxlang
> > that had any political or religious references.
> 
> For me it would depend on the nature of the references. I 
> don't like political ties, whether left or right, and some 
> ideologies disgust me--I won't learn Laadan because I 
> consider it bigoted, for instance.
> 
> But religion isn't an automatic turn-off for me. For example, 
> suppose the Pope decided to promote either Ia or LsF--both 
> understandable choices, though historically high-level 
> Catholics have supported Eo instead. They might make some 
> tweaks and call the result "Lingua Cat[h]olic" or something. 
> Would I support that?

It would depend on the tweaks to the language.  If they tried to
make the language a propoganda tool, which a name like "lingua
catolica" would be, I wouldn't support it.  If they merely adopted
it as the interlanguage of the Vatican (like the current state of
Latin) because they see the practical value in using a planned
language, then no problem.


> As a global auxlang, not so much--though the Catholic Church 
> is global, and it might pull such a move off. But those 
> strongly opposed to Catholicism would probably go nuclear, 
> and I wouldn't expect Muslim areas to accept it. But as a 
> proof that an "artificial" language can work internationally, 
> it would be quite useful. The final solution? No, but surely 
> a prelude to one.

If they adopted it as I menioned.  It could be a good thing.  Just
as the colonial languages have been spread by missionaries, a
language like Interlingua could be used and spread in the same
manner.  The only thing is that the movement these days is a day
late and a dollar short.


> Similarly, if Muslims could truly get together on an auxlang, 
> perhaps something related to Arabic as Yiddish is to Hebrew, 
> i.e., marginally, that would be worth learning and 
> supporting, though I doubt it would gain truly global 
> acceptance either.

Most Muslims though are non-Arabs.  Something based loosely on
Arabic may work for that group though because Arabic has supplied a
lot of loanwords to these other languages.

> But suppose all Catholics learned The Catholic Language, and 
> all Muslims learned The Muslim Language. You would have a 
> pair of auxlangs with roughly the power of English! And since 
> most Euro-Americans could pick up at least a passive 
> knowledge of the Catholic one very quickly, it could extend 
> well beyond Catholicism proper. One could even imagine 
> producing a merger of the two auxlangs.
>
> So I don't foresee supporting a political auxlang, but a 
> religious one might be worthwhile if only as a step to a 
> larger solution. Religions, after all, tend to be less 
> limited than political movements. There are right- and 
> left-wing members of both Catholicism and Islam, after all.

Some religions are also suppressed in certain parts of the world,
and in others there is only one religion forcing to others operate
underground.

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