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CONLANG  December 2008, Week 2

CONLANG December 2008, Week 2

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Re: A Font for Pictographs

From:

"David J. Peterson" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:42:00 -0800

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D'oh!  I'm stupid.  It's a .zip file that contains a .ttf, not a .ttf!
Sorry.  :(  Here's the url:

http://dedalvs.free.fr/dl/daveipa.zip

-David
*******************************************************************
"sunly eleSkarez ygralleryf ydZZixelje je ox2mejze."
"No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."

-Jim Morrison

http://dedalvs.free.fr/

On Dec 14, 2008, at 732 AM, Eugene Oh wrote:

> The font sounds like a great way to type IPA! Character Palette is  
> only good
> for minimal use. But when I tried to download your font it turned up a
> missing page warning...
> Eugene
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:35 AM, David J. Peterson  
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Oh, I can tell you why--and let me tell you, when the change
>> occurred, I was NOT happy.
>>
>> I, as some may or may not know, am a 100% Mac person, and
>> have been since I started using computers (my first was an Apple
>> IIe).  Back when I started in linguistics, Mac was still running OS 9
>> (now known as "Classic" [well, actually now non-existent: what
>> *used* to be known as "Classic" during the early days of OS X]).
>> In those days, you'd download a font like the SIL font, and all
>> the characters would be mapped to keystrokes, as the following
>> (on the left is the keystroke, on the right is the X-SAMPA character
>> [which, of course, would print out as an IPA character]):
>>
>> s = [s]
>> S = [S]
>> z = [z]
>> Z = [Z]
>> e = [e]
>> E = [E]
>> d = [d]
>> D = [D]
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> You can see why this would be an ideal system.
>>
>> Anyway, I used to use this font called the Kansas University
>> Linguistics Department IPA font (called KULDIPA2).  I liked this
>> font because it allowed you to write *all* the upper and lower
>> case letters, *and* it had most of the run-of-the-mill IPA symbols.
>> This way, when I wrote up my dictionaries in AppleWorks (another
>> defunct program), I could just use one font for the whole thing.
>> What a relief!  The way it worked, though, was it made use of
>> Apple's "alt" key and the "alt+shift" combination, and mapped
>> most every symbol to a bunch of weird places, e.g.:
>>
>> alt+5 = [E]
>> alt+6 = [U]
>> alt+k = [D]
>>
>> They were totally counter-intuitive, but once you learned the
>> keystroke for each character, you could write up an entire
>> document with one font, including upper case letters *and*
>> punctuation.  It was wonderful!
>>
>> Then came OS X.  Of course, it was wonderful in many ways.
>> One thing it did, though, was it killed these fonts that are created
>> just like the fonts I make (which is why Sidaan's font displays
>> correctly, by the way), because it opened up Unicode to Macs.
>> Because of that, *all* the SIL fonts switched to Unicode mappings.
>> This is why if you download and install a SIL font now and just
>> type, it looks just like an ordinary font.  In order to properly use
>> it, you have to use the Mac's "Character Palette", which, in my
>> opinion, is hopelessly inefficient.  Of course, for philosophical
>> reasons, this is better (if you type shift+a, you should get the
>> grapheme "capital A", not some other character), but it makes
>> life difficult for conlangers.  In fact, the result of this was once
>> I switched over, it just about destroyed all my old documents.
>> That Kansas University font didn't work at ALL anymore, and
>> I had to go back and replace EVERY SINGLE ENTRY in just
>> about every dictionary I had using that font.  I'm still not done
>> with Zhyler, in fact (which is why, I don't know if anyone's
>> noticed, I haven't done anything with that language in, oh,
>> about...three, four years?  My old dictionary still isn't fully
>> converted yet!).
>>
>> So, what to do?  Well, I did a couple of things.  First, all the  
>> fonts
>> I create are mapped to keystrokes I know, using the old alt and
>> alt+shift Mac rows (it probably doesn't make much sense to
>> Windows users, but it does to me).  Second (and this is relevant
>> for you, Eric), I created a new font called DaveIPA.  What is it?
>> It's the old SIL font.  The only difference is I created it so it  
>> works
>> just like the old one does--just like the mapping above.  If you
>> download this font and install it, it'll work just like the old one.
>> Using my font creation program, I basically opened up the new
>> SIL font, scrolled down to the Unicode locations of the IPA  
>> characters,
>> and pasted them into the places where I was used to them being,
>> and made that a font.  This font certainly isn't as useful as the
>> regular SIL font for those who are used to dealing with Unicode,
>> but you might rather like it, Eric.  If you'd like to give it a  
>> whirl,
>> you can download it here:
>>
>> http://dedalvs.free.fr/dl/daveipa.ttf
>>
>> I understand that this is a Mac-only, non-ideal stop-gap solution,
>> but until there's a better way to Unicode on a Mac, I'm sticking
>> with my font.
>>
>> -David
>> *******************************************************************
>> "sunly eleSkarez ygralleryf ydZZixelje je ox2mejze."
>> "No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."
>>
>> -Jim Morrison
>>
>> http://dedalvs.free.fr/
>>
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2008, at 1024 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
>>
>>  On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Dec 13, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Gary Shannon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The font has been corrected to work properly with Microsoft  
>>>>> Internet
>>>>> Explorer. The new version has been uploaded to my page:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://fiziwig.com/glyph/fragz01.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone gotten it working on a Mac? I'm having no luck.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Also (and maybe this is part of the reason it's not working for  
>>> me), could
>>> someone help me out with symbol-encoded fonts on Macs? There are  
>>> certain
>>> fonts - like Symbol and the old SIL 93 IPA fonts - which don't  
>>> seem to work
>>> in OS X like on Windows. Namely, in Windows if you select Symbol  
>>> and start
>>> typing normal ASCII characters with it, they come out as Greek  
>>> letters of
>>> other symbols; but in OS X it just shows regular Roman text. Why  
>>> is that,
>>> and is there a way to change it?
>>>
>>> That seems to be true of some conscript fonts on web pages too -  
>>> they show
>>> up as regular Roman text. For some reason, David's Sidaan font  
>>> displays
>>> correctly.
>>>
>>

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