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AUXLANG  January 2009, Week 3

AUXLANG January 2009, Week 3

Subject:

Re: A look at Occidental

From:

MacLeod Dave <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:17:08 +0900

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2009/1/19 auliuniv <[log in to unmask]>:
> On 19 Jan 2009 at 10:13, MacLeod Dave wrote:
>>
>> I think it can happen. I spent about two years after 2005 trying
>> out
>> pretty much everything and have finally made a decision which one
>> to
>> throw my full support behind, and when that happens I'm quite good
>> at
>> promoting something. I think the biggest advantage is in cases
>> like
>> this one:
>>
>> http://anniceris.blogspot.com/2009/01/octopedia.html
>>
>> where I or anyone else can use the language to communicate with
>> others
>> that have never even seen it before. Interlingua has that too but
>> I
>> just couldn't bring myself to support it in full, especially since
>> the
>> orthography isn't even as good as Spanish re: knowing where to
>> place
>> the stress when it's irregular...among other things like the
>> Romance
>> pull. The worst was seeing a new student of Interlingua with an
>> introduction to a list somewhere along the lines of Salute, mi
>> nomine
>> es... and then receiving responses in various forms of Interlingua
>> (including even verb conjugation like -n for 3rd person plural)
>> that
>> do nothing but confuse the new student.
>>
>> I'm looking forward most right now to Steve's rehashing of the
>> dictionary. After that's done it'll be time to make a course on
>> Wikibooks that beginners can start with.
>>
>> --
>> http://mithridates.blogspot.com
> Dave,
> I'm glad to see your growing enthusiasm for the language. And, that of Steve
> and some others.
> However, I notice no mention of the Interlingue-Union, Mssrs. Werner or
> Plavec, etc.
> Is this an indication that you are more than willing to do this on your own,
> and Steve, etc. without any input from those who have already spent time and
> money and effort to promote and continue Occidental?
> And, where are you going to get the information for new courses in the
> language? Are you going to reprint old material, create your own, or ????
> Technically, like it or not, all former "official" materials still fall
> under the control of the Interlingue-Union which is the continuation via A.
> Matejka to and through Werner and Plavec.
> How will the concept of working together play out here, or will it be all
> individual effort?
> There are more questions to ask, but have any of the above been considered,
> has a plan of action been thought out, etc. etc. etc.???
> To me over the years the outstanding "concept" on the auxlang list is to do
> anything and everything one wants without any consideration to group
> production. Ergo, in my mind, continued no growth for any of the language
> mentioned here.
> And, also, to me, if not to anyone else, the go it alone idea is one of, if
> not the, major reason the IAL's go no where.
> What do you think?
> Bob
> Robert Petry
> News & Accurate Prophecy http://www.64prn.com
> Occidental (Cosmoglotta Biblioteca) http://www.interlingue.com
> Occidental (Cosmoglotta Weblog) http://www.cosmoglotta.com
> http://www.dreamhost.com/donate.cgi?id=10598
>

I like the idea of working as a team, yes. I don't know much about the
Occidental Union so I should probably study up on that, but what is
most important for me is being able to get something done as quick as
possible and under a mostly free-use copyright so that nobody has to
worry about who is using what. If for example there is a good course
already out there that the Union wouldn't mind being spread around the
internet then I'd be happy to type it up if they could send me a
scanned pdf or the actual document.

At the moment I'm still getting used to the language so creating a
course would also be an exercise in studying it myself, and it
wouldn't be that bad to have more than one course as a result. Right
now what I'm most concerned about is this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occidental_language

whereby anyone first learning about the language should be able to
find 1) a complete grammar and 2) a complete dictionary, without
having to spend a lot of time searching here and there for it.

I love typing up documents that others have written so if you have any
of those that need to be done I'll be glad to do them.


--
http://mithridates.blogspot.com

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