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AUXLANG  February 2009, Week 4

AUXLANG February 2009, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Budinos (Was: Mixed translation in sambahsa and frenkisch)

From:

Risto Kupsala <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:24:50 +0200

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Dmitri Ivanov wrote:
>> About Budinos... eh? Is this supposed to be a "pan-finno-ugric"
>> auxlang? I don't think so. It rather looks like a heap of
>> vocabulary bits taken from several finno-ugric languages, and
>> tied together with an Esperanto-like grammar!
>
> I've found the grammar rather Finnish-like than Esperanto-like.
> On the whole I sort of like the language, probably because it
> reminds me of Finnish so much.

Esperanto type word class system is unsuitable for Finno-Ugric languages.
It disturbs me. Otherwise the grammar is fine. The vocabulary is mostly
strange to me, so I wonder how much pan- or even proto-Finno-Ugric there
is really.

Over the years I have sometimes considered making Finno-Ugric
interlanguage (or why not Uralic - the addition of the minuscule Samojed
languages wouldn't change much), but I have been held back by my poor
knowledge of many Finno-Ugric languages. So it could easily turn into a
kind of simplified Finnish...

But it was interesting to find out that there is some interest for a
Finno-Ugric interlanguage in the ethnic regions of Russia.

> I think that generally people
> tend to like languages similar to those they already know.
> That's why Russians like Slovio, and Romance speakers like LFN,
> and English speakers like English-based creoles.

> What surprised me is the existence of Z, ZH and SH.

Those sounds are common in the Finno-Ugric family, think about Sami,
Hungarian, Karelian and Udmurt, just to name a few. Finnish is
exceptionally simple with regard to phonology.

I was surprised that long vowels and vowels such as Finnish ,  and y
were completely missing.

> I also wonder in what finno-ugric language the plural is marked
> with -da.

Good question. Perhaps -d is taken from Estonian plural marker (same as
Finnish -t) and substantive marker -a is added for euphony.

-- Risto Kupsala

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