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CONLANG  April 2009, Week 2

CONLANG April 2009, Week 2

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Re: Phonotactics

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Linvi Charles wrote:
> I am having a very hard time coming up with a set of strict phonotactics to
> create a unique "feel" for my language.  Could some of you guys post
> examples from your languages to give me some perspective?

I know how that is. I'm been working on Deini, but want something that 
has a good "natural" flow to it.  The primary influence is Low-Germanic, 
and being a native anglophone I tend to lean in the direction of my 
native language but my long term involvement with auxlangs also drives 
me toward something more euphonious.  Most recently I looked and the 
vocabulary and didn't care much for final clusters so I stuck an 
epenthethic on the end of all the final clusters except those with a 
glide like /l/ or /r/.


> For example, I do not understand *why *certain consonant clusters work,
> while others do not.  I want my phonotactics to make some logical sense, but
> right now I find myself simply saying "oh, these two consonants work well
> together!"

It's hard to say, and I'm biased by my own habits.  I find 
consonant+glide combinations very simple.  English includes a lot of /s/ 
+ unvoiced-stop combinations so those are easy for me.  /f/ also seems 
to work well before a stop.  The hardest part is stop+stop where the two 
are articulated differently.  I've again stuck in an epenthethic vowel 
for those cases.  I also have some rules for assimilation in some cases 
(ex:  /k/ + /g/ -> /g/ or /g/ + /k/ -> /k/).

I also have some phonemes that just aren't found in certain positions at 
all.  /N/ never occurs as a final except for a single onomotopeia 
(Njau), likewise the consonant /h/ doesn't occur as a final, and does 
elide next to many consonants when forming compounds or derivatives.



> I have no little perspective on phonotactics, that even my questions are
> lacking.  Thank you in advance for any responses...

A lot has to do with what direction you want for your language.  It it a 
  personal language?  A fanstasy language?  An auxlang?   Most of my 
creations have been auxlangs so euphony was a major criteria.  Deini is 
a personal language so it's not a major one, though I still consider it 
a factor.

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