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CONLANG  April 2009, Week 3

CONLANG April 2009, Week 3

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Re: adposition (was: The rhotic as a vowel)

From:

Paul Kershaw <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:16:31 -0700

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> From: Peter Bleackley <[log in to unmask]>
> It could be argued that the "preposition" in expressions such as "He 
> threw the towel in" is actually part of a seperable verb "throw in". 
> This, of course would be a perfectly standard way of thinking about 
> it in German, but analyses of English often seem to ignore its 
> Germanicness (eg classifying all strong verbs as "irregular"). 
> Probably the legacy of all those public school prescriptivists who 
> sought to ruthlessly retrofit English grammar to Latinate models.
> 
> Pete

Agreed, and I think this is to the detriment of anglophones learning German. The behavior of separable prefixes in German and particles in English certainly aren't identical:

1. Ich rufe meinen Freund an.
1'. *Ich rufe an meinen Freund.
1". Ich habe meinen Freund angeruft.

2. I'm phoning my friend up.
2'. I'm phoning up my friend.
2". I phoned my friend up. / I phoned up my friend. / I have phoned up my friend. / *I have my friend phoned up.

But teaching particles as a separate class in English from prepositions (which they are) would not just give students a better understanding of their own language, it would better prepare them for separable prefixes in sister languages.

-- Paul

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