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CONLANG  April 2009, Week 3

CONLANG April 2009, Week 3

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Re: TECH: Regular expression for syllable division?

From:

Adrian <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:14:54 +0100

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On 17/04/2009, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ah, sorry.  You were invoking "Real Programming vs Just Scripting",
> rather than "My Scripting Language vs. Perl". I'll modulate my shield
> nutation so as to supply the more appropriate response next time. :)
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Apr 17, 2009, at 14:21, "G. van der Vegt" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> 2009/4/17 Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>:
>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM, G. van der Vegt <[log in to unmask]
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Sophisticated Perl?
>>>>
>>>> I thought that was an oxymoron.
>>>
>>> OK, we were already in way OT territory, but let's please not start a
>>> proglang war.  You can write elegant - even beautiful, but of course
>>> that's in the eye of the beholder - code in just about any
>>> programming
>>> language, "even" Perl (even PHP or JavaScript or APL, for that
>>> matter,
>>> to mention some other languages often held up as counterexamples).
>>> And you can write fugly code in any programming language, even
>>> Python.
>>>  Or Lisp or Lua or Haskell or whatever standard it is you hold Perl
>>> up
>>> against and find it wanting.  (I'm guessing it's not Ruby, since IME
>>> most Ruby programmers actually like Perl, including Matz, who was
>>> inspired by it - they just don't like it as much as Ruby. :)  Whereas
>>> most Python programmers seem to really have it in for Perl for some
>>> reason.)
>>>
>>> I think Perl gets a bad rep for much the same reason JavaScript does:
>>> ubiquity, and consequent use and abuse by the not-so-skilled.   In
>>> the
>>> early days of the web it was the go-to language for getting any sort
>>> of dynamic content on your website, so it spread like wildfire, and a
>>> disproportionate amount of the bad code out there got written in it.
>>> PHP has long since taken over that niche, but Perl still gets to keep
>>> its bad rep.
>>>
>>> In any case, it's not nice to snark about something that we really
>>> aren't supposed to be talking about on this list.
>>
>> I thought the smiley at the bottom of my mail would make it
>> sufficiently clear that I was talking in jest.
>>
>> Though I feel compelled to explain my position here, Perl falls in
>> roughly the same category as Python and PHP to me: perfectly fine for
>> what it's generally used for, but due to my specialization, it's
>> highly unlikely I'll be working on a project that heavily incorporates
>> these languages in the foreseeable future.
>

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