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CONLANG April 2009, Week 4

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Re: OT: and YAEPT (I guess): Movie-actors' Accents

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Andrew Jarrette <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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Forwarded Message: Re: OT: and YAEPT (I guess): Movie-actors' Accents Re:
OT: and YAEPT (I guess):
Re: OT: and YAEPT (I guess): Movie-actors' Accents Re: OT: and YAEPT (I guess):
Friday, April 17, 2009 5:40 PM
From:
"Andrew Jarrette" <[log in to unmask]>
To:
[log in to unmask]

Forwarded Message: Re: OT: and YAEPT (I guess): Movie-actors' Accents
Re: OT: and YAEPT (I guess): Movie-actors' Accents
Friday, April 17, 2009 5:29 PM
From:
"Andrew Jarrette" <[log in to unmask]>
To:
"Constructed Languages List" <[log in to unmask]>
--- In [log in to unmask], Eldin Raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
>
> I have been struck in the last several movies and TV series I've seen by the
> British actors whose American accents are convincingly really American.
>
> (e.g. Robert Pattinton in "Twilight", Helena Bonham Carter in "Fight
Club", the
> various actors in "House" and "The Wire", etc.)
>
> I know they have dialect/dialogue coaches to help them with this;
> nevertheless it seems that not nearly as many of them did nearly as well
> before 1990 (maybe before 2000) as they've been doing since 2005.
>
> (E.g. the Americans in "Fast Eddie" and "Fawlty Towers" hardly sounded
> American; almost as inaccurate as the typical "Southern Accent" used to be
> when "imitated" by a Yankee.)
>
> Have list-member viewers from other countries noticed, by any chance, that
> Canadian and USAmerican actors also seem to have radically-improved
> accents when playing characters from their (the viewers') countries?
>
> Have Candian and USAmerican listmembers noticed that actors from other
> English-speaking countries (especially other than the U.K. and the British
Isles)
> do much better Canadian and American accents these days than they did in
> decades past?
>
> Can anyone explain why whatever they've noticed happens to be the case?
>
> (Assuming it's not just my imagination.)
>


I've noticed that Christian Bale, who has natively a northern Engish accent,
does an excellent American or generic North American accent, as in the
Batman movies; Nicole Kidman, Naomi Watts, Toni Collette, Isla Fisher
(Wedding Crashers, Confessions of a Shopaholic), and the late Heath Ledger,
all Australian, do flawless American accents (I think Hugh Jackman also,
also Australian); Rachel Weisz, whose native accent is a London-type accent
fairly close to RP, also does a good American accent.

In the other direction, Americans and Canadians imitating British accents, I
don't think actors are as good. Renée Zellweger in Bridget Jones was
passable, but not as good as the above; several other actresses have put on
British accents but I believe none of them were as good as the above;
Australian actors I think do better British accents. One Canadian
actor/comedian that nobody knows, Gavin Crawford, does a virtually flawless
Australian accent.

I think the reason for Australian and British actors doing better North
American accents than they did in the past is that people are just generally
more informed these days and have easy access to material and communication
from foreign countries, on the internet, and the ubiquitous American (esp.
Hollywood) movies that are popular around the world. People's exposure is
much greater than it was formerly, especially exposure to American speech
patterns, so actors of today are more familiar with it and find it easier to
imitate. At least that's my guess.

Andrew J

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