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CONLANG  April 2009, Week 5

CONLANG April 2009, Week 5

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Re: ai Basata syntax simplified even more

From:

Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:46:23 -0700

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--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> A few questions:
 
> What does J stand for?

Adjectives
 
> I notice that an object of SV may fall between the subject
> and verb, but a noun phrase may also be modified by a following
> adjunct which is syntactically identical to an object. Would this just be
> disambiguated by context?

I searched "adjunct" in Google, and I'm afraid all the stuff I found about "X-bar theory" and "arguments for right-adjunction", etc., etc. went right over my head. I can't answer your question because I don't understand the question. (I learned what I know about grammar watching "Conjunction Junction" on Schoolhouse Rock with my kids back in the 70's. As a retired software engineer my syntax training was a lot more formal, but not related to NATLANGS.)

What is it, exactly, that needs to be disambiguated? Can you give an example of what you mean?

> C includes subordinators as well as conjunctions?

I looked up "subordinators" and if I'm reading it correctly, they occur only at the beginning of a clause. The ai Basata C structures can apparently perform the same function but do it slightly differently, there being a two-part separable C (or it could be considered a C + particle) such that the English sentence with subordinator: "WHEN I saw John I knew he had won the race." would require the x...C structure: xACA, (WHEN <I saw John> THEN <I knew ...>) where x is the equivalent of English "when", and "C" represents a particle something like "then" in English that completes the structure.

By by making C a superclass of conjunctions, subordinators, subordinating conjunctions, conjunctive adverbs, and whatever else can be made to fit the "X <element> Y <element>" or "<element> X <element> Y" template, then I only need one rule to find them all and in the darkness bind them.

I like <N> AND <N>: I like peas AND carrots.
<A> AND <A>: I took the high road AND he took the low road.
S <VO> AND <VO>: He closed the doors and trimmed the lamps.
<A> WHEN <A>: I take the high road WHEN he takes the low road.
<A> IF <A>: I will-stay home IF it rains.
IF <A> THEN <A>: IF it rains THEN I will stay home.
I only like <J> OR <J> Jello: I only like red OR green Jello.
AS LONG AS <A> THEN <A>: AS LONG AS it's light out THEN I will keep on hiking.

--gary

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