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CONLANG May 2009, Week 1

Subject:

Soliciting opinions (WAS:Re: My first Grammar Sketch)

From:

Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 5 May 2009 14:01:56 -0700

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I'm soliciting opinions on marking stress in ai Basata.

In ai Basata the stress is always on the final vowel of the root.
Roots always end in a consonant, and suffixes always begin with a vowel.
	bat + o, rad + ase, pad + a, etc.
Most words have only a single-vowel part-of-speech suffix, making the stress penultimate on most words.
	bAto, angUla, mavAnte, etc.
Derivational suffixes have two syllables, causing the stress on the word to be ante-penultimate.
	bat + ora = bAtora, bej + ota = bEjota, rad + ase = rAdase, etc.
Adding more than one suffix pushes back the accented syllable even further.

Here are some alternatives for indicating stress:

1. Don't do anything. Expect the user to know the root and stress on each word.

De sabale loka tamani te yuga karodo one basata u pahale pada sa. Tamani machata viajo abisuri, tuasa achamodo mahangana tari ai Shinar u tuasa iremando tari tatra.

2. Double the stressed vowel: baato, mavaante, baatora, beejota.

De saabale looka tamaani te yuuga kaarodo oone baasata u paahale paada sa. Tamaani maachata viajo abisuuri, tuasa achaamodo mahangaana taari ai Shinar u tuasa iremaando taari taatra.

3. Make the last root vowel always be a dipthong: baito, mavaunte, baitora, beijota.

De saibale loika tamaeni te yuega kairodo one baisata u paehale pauda sa. Tamaini maochata viajo abisuiri, tuasa achaimodo mahangaena tairi ai Shinar u tuasa iremaendo tairi taetra.

4. Use accent marks when stress is not penultimate: bato, béjota, rádase, mavante.

De sábale loka tamani te yuga károdo one basata u páhale pada sa. Tamani máchata viajo abisuri, tuasa achámodo mahangana tari ai Shinar u tuasa iremando tari tatra.

5. Use accent marks everywhere: báto, béjota, rádase, mavánte.

De sábale lóka tamáni te yúga károdo óne basáta u páhale páda sa. Tamáni máchata viájo abisúri, tuása achámodo mahangána tári ai Shinar u tuása iremándo tári tátra.

6. Replace the first vowel of all two-syllable suffixes with demi-schwa (made-up word, but you know what I mean ;), written (') and mostly disappeared in pronunciation, (bato, bej'ta, rad'se, mavante) except where actually necessary: wit'ta.

De sab'le loka tamani te yuga kar'do one bas'ta u pah'le pada sa. Tamani mach'ta viajo abisuri, tuasa acham'do mahangana tari ai Shinar u tuasa iremando tari tatra.

(English: The whole world during that era had one language and shared.ADJ word PLU. During mankind moves eastward, they found (a) plain in Shinar and they began-reside in that-place.)


--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Larry Sulky <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> > I kinda like that one. In fact, suppose the final
> vowel of the root were
> > always doubled? Then you could always tell what was a
> root and what was an
> > affix.
> >
> 
> Yep. My hidden agenda.

I knew that. :) (Elomi is now the name of a plus-size bra, in case you haven't done a Google on it lately.)

> 
> Then how about an apostrophe at the root boundary only when
> a suffix (aside
> from the grammatical class suffix -- "a", "i", etc.)
> occurs?

See my alternatives listed above.

--gary

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