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CONLANG  May 2009, Week 4

CONLANG May 2009, Week 4

Subject:

Re: artlang advocacy/evangelism

From:

Kelvin Jackson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 24 May 2009 15:09:17 -0400

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>> OK, could work.  But how would you go about
>> setting and maintaining standards?  Surely a
>> "consulting linguist" or "consulting conlanger"
>> ought to be at least a _qualified linguist_? Or
>> does that only apply where money is charged
>> for services?  I think not; I'd hate for people to
>> think us even flakier than they already might
>> (thinking us weird is OK!) - which is what would
>> happen if people had unrealistic expectations
>> created but then left unmet.  What if, after several
>> months of development, the conlanger's "client"
>> said: "After all this time, you've done a horrible job;
>> it all sounds so ugly!"
>>
>> In the software services industry, we protect both
>> provider and client against this kind of eventuality
>> by signing off an agreed specification of the
>> product, before major development work is done;
>> the preparation of the spec is done on a cost-plus
>> basis.  How might this translate to conlanging-for-
>> hire?
>
> Problems with sotware specification writing,
> which would be present also when writing specs for conlangs to be
> implemented by someone else, is that often the eventual user doesn't
> fully consciously know what they want; or they know what they want,
> but aren't articulate in expressing it (perhaps for want of suitable
> domain vocabulary); or they know what they want, but fail to say so
> explicitly enough because they think they share more assumptions with
> the programmers/conlangers than they actually do.  Instances of
> problems of that kind that might occur in conlanging-for-hire, besides
> the one you mention (unshared and unspoken assumptions about what kind
> of phonology sounds good), I suspect mostly involve naive users
> assuming that all languages are similar to their native language in
> certain respects -- so they don't realize, for instance, that it's
> necessary, if they want their conlang to have a definite/indefinite
> distinction obligatorily marked with articles, for them to say so.

Perhaps the conlanger-for-hire should be obliged to ask such  
questions directly—they wouldn't be expected to cover every  
possibility, of course, but they could mention some things that might  
not be obvious—such as the article issue listed above. There could  
even be a standardized list of aspects about which to ask before  
design could begin—perhaps something resembling a condensed version  
of the language construction kit.
>
> As more films and TV shows occasionally follow the example of Star
> Trek in hiring people to create conlangs for background material, it
> would probably be good for us to work on setting some kind of
> professional standards or at least educating people about where to go
> for good conlang design.  I would suggest that someone who's offering
> to create conlangs for hire should have a proven track record in
> creating interesting conlangs and documenting them well enough that a
> linguistically naive person could learn them tolerably well from the
> documentation,

They should certainly have a website with examples of past work. It  
should also be obvious what types of grammatical structures/phonemes/ 
etc. they prefer, to give the customer an idea of what to expect

-Kelvin.

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