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AUXLANG  June 2009, Week 3

AUXLANG June 2009, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Presenting the language [WAS: English - the world's IAL?]

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"<deinx nxtxr>" <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:57:51 -0400

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steve rice wrote:
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Jens Wilkinson <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Geoffrey King <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Organised Esperantists tend to be wary of this,
>> however, and there is one good reason. I regularly see 
>> disparate novices suggesting "couldn't we say it this 
>> way...", in other words proposing changes and improvements, 
>> and presumably unaware of how many times such changes and 
>> improvements have been discussed in the past.
>> 
>> But is it really such a bad thing?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> In English, there are
>> plenty of people who say "I didn't do nothing," and although
>> it's considered sub-standard, it is a different way and it
>> doesn't really impede communication. The idea that a language
>> will fragment into mutually non-understandable dialects may
>> have been valid in the past, but with global communications
>> the way they are today, I don't think it is really such a
>> problem. In fact, it's probably likely today that the 
>> dialects of English are getting closer together because of 
>> shared culture.
>> 
> But English has the linguistic inertia of hundreds of millions
> of speakers. Eo doesn't. The whole rationale for the Netusxebla
> Fundamento is to mimic natlang inertia and provide stability.
> Remember what has happened in Ia, where it seems as though
> everyone has his own version. They're mutually intelligible, at
> least for the most part, but it's still a source of confusion
> and contention. Also, you seldom find someone seriously
> proposing to "fix" some problem of English. Spelling reform is
> as close as it gets. But no one tries to regularize irregular
> verbs or irregular plurals. Why? Because English is a language,
> and you're outvoted by its users. But artificial languages seem
> far more malleable.

Yes, there's a big difference between a language like English with 
hundreds of millions of speakers and a worldwide media 
infrastructure.  A conlang trying to get established as an auxlang 
has at best a few hundred speakers who are scattered about. 
Unless theya are all connected together as a single unit the 
individual groups will each start to develop their own styles and 
possibly even their own lexicon.  This is why I say it's important 
to have a solid foundation and why it's important to promote a 
strict adherence to that while the language is getting its start. 
    If/when the language ever gains a large user community then 
variations aren't going to matter much because the established 
userbase becomes the new authority.

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