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CONLANG  June 2009, Week 3

CONLANG June 2009, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Teaching/Learning Methods; Collaborating

From:

Tony Harris <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:45:42 -0400

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Amanda Babcock Furrow wrote:
> I once started trying to create mërčchi lessons, but I was handicapped by
> my dislike of introductory language lessons!  (I very much hated when
> the Teach Yourself <X> books switched to a more conversational format, and
> years later when used books became so easy to find and buy online I finally
> got myself a "correct" copy of Teach Yourself Finnish with the practice
> texts in descriptive, narrative passages and no annoying "My name is",
> "Where is the train station?" stuff.  (I had first seen the book in this
> edition in the library, but by the time I had disposable income it was out
> in the new, uninteresting edition.  I never forgot the text at the end
> of Chapter 1... ok, I forgot the Finnish version, but the images of the
> sun rising over the town with its tall, white church steeple remained :)
> And a few words, like "ovat korkeat" (are tall?)  And "On yö", which 
> was the first sentence, and appears to mean "It is dark".))
>   
I think it means "It is night".  I have the same book, and I love it.  
Although I found the vocabulary lists with dozens of words in each 
chapter to be a bit intimidating.   But definitely I preferred the old 
style Teach Yourself books to the new conversational ones.  Although if 
they could *merge* the styles that might be quite nice.

> So... with regular textbooks, not a success story here.  My favorite way 
> to play with a new language (though perhaps not the world's most efficient 
> way to learn one) is to noodle around with a grammar, a dictionary and 
> a corpus.
>   
I agree, I love to just browse grammar books and get the flavor of a 
language.

>> For those of you who have learned (even a little bit) of your own or  
>> someone else's conlang, what sort of methods did you use? Flashcards?  
>> Translation exercises?
>>     
>
> I learned my own by using.  Some words I just remembered from the beginning.
> I've never had a big problem remembering grammar, or rather I feel free
> to change it when I misremember :)
>
> I'm playing with Alurhsa in my favorite way (see above), with the addition
> of writing a parser.  Cases where the words don't parse right stick in my
> head and make me more aware of the problematic suffixes :)
>   
I also learned Alurhsa by using it.  I started by just translating 
favorite passages, and thinking up phrases, and then moving into journal 
writing.

And the parser is *very* cool!
> The other thing in operation with Alurhsa (and with every language I've
> ever studied) is that some of what I read gets stuck in my head like a song.
> Like the Alurhsa blog post title "Me, me, me bánensá".  I won't forget what
> bánensá means anytime soon.
>   
>

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