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CONLANG  June 2009, Week 3

CONLANG June 2009, Week 3

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Re: Changing standard word order

From:

Paul Hartzer <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:25:10 -0700

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----- Original Message ----

> From: Lars Finsen <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> I suppose there must be some regional variations, aren't there? Are Blacks 
> deserting their local dialects, which I assume are somewhat different from locak 
> Whitey speech, and adopting standard Ebonics/Jive?

Disclaimer: My evidence is predominantly anecdotal, but I imagine that of other commenters is as well. I currently live in a neighborhood that is about 80% black, urban (we border the city of Detroit), and poor (median HH income $24K in 2000 census). I am white and middle class.

Other than so-called "wiggers" (white people deliberately taking on the affectations of urban black culture, including their dialect: see Ali G for a satire), I've seen little evidence of people consciously taking on AAVE or rejecting the local version of SAE (WAVE?). Certainly there are some individual blacks who feel the social pressure to adopt or maintain a version of AAVE to talk to their social group, to appear not to be "white" or "Uncle Toms," but overwhelmingly, people who speak AAVE (including whites who grew up in AAVE-speaking neighborhoods; not every white who speaks AAVE is a wigger) are doing so because that's the dialect of their neighborhood, just as anyone from any other speech community speaks the dialect of their neighborhood.

It's very important to keep US social history in mind when looking at this topic. Within the lifetime of some of the people on this list, for instance, black people in the US were still required to ride on the back of the bus, drink from specially marked drinking fountains, and use specially marked public bathrooms. They couldn't own or rent property in many areas, either by law or by recalcitrant real estate owners. 

Still today, there are pockets (fortunately dwindling in size) where white people obstruct black people from moving in to their neighborhoods. Only a few years ago, I was at a restaurant only six miles north of where I live where the ONLY non-white faces were the waitstaff, most of which were black or Latino; when I spoke to a Latina busperson, I not only got a panicked reaction from her but also shocked looks from the other patrons.

Look at the work of famous American painter Normal Rockwell
(1894-1978), who depicted "American" life. Due largely to editorial
requirements of The Saturday Evening Post, for which he did an enormous
number of covers, blacks rarely appear in his paintings. The Saturday Evening Post prohibited the use of blacks in US settings in anything other than positions of servitude (example: http://www.saturdayeveningpostcovers.com/frame/60984/). Rockwell became enlightened before the Post did, but still abided by that rule for his covers for the magazine until one arguable exception late in his run (http://www.saturdayeveningpostcovers.com/frame/61060/). However, in his separate work, he did several depictions of blacks, including perhaps his most famous and powerful one, 1964's The Problem We All Live With (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The-problem-we-all-live-with-norman-rockwell.jpg). That one depicts a real 1960 event showing the tension of blacks living in post-slavery America, nearly a century after blacks were freed by Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation (1863).

Hence, for a long period of US history, blacks and whites existed in two different and rarely overlapping worlds, and continue to do so to a diminishing degree. It should therefore come as no surprise that, in the few centuries where this has been the case, separate dialects have evolved for whites and blacks. After all, look at how much US and British English had grown apart from the mid-18th C. to the mid-20th C. Now those dialects are probably enjoying a period of coming back into similitude due to widespread co-access through the media, but the deviations there were mostly due to distance and nothing else (except for a period from about 1770-1820 where US citizens were actively trying to distance themselves from British English). However, AAVE and SAE have more than distance working to wedge them apart.

I think that anyone who honestly feels that blacks are just being lazy or contrariwise in continuing to use AAVE really hasn't reflected seriously on what has been a horrific history for blacks in the United States. Yes, it is counterproductive for assimilation into Corporate America for people to continue to use maligned dialects, including AAVE (as well as, say, Lower Class Bostonian of the sort featured in the film Good Will Hunting or Scandanavian Midwest as featured in the film Fargo), but there are deep-rooted sociolinguistic forces at work, including the very simple one: Why should those bigoted against change their ways to suit the will of the bigots? Why shouldn't the bigots be encouraged instead to accept the beauty of linguistic variation?

-- Paul



      

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