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CONLANG  July 2009, Week 1

CONLANG July 2009, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Holly Lisle's Create A Language Clinic

From:

Lee <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:57:12 -0700

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I have no idea what series you guys are talking about. But, like they say, everyone's a critic, and beauty's in the eye of the beholder. ;)

(Sorry, couldn't resist. Just saw a "hearty discussion" over movie critics being seen as totally out of touch with the rest of the world.)

Lee

--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Holly Lisle's Create A Language Clinic
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:23 PM
> Of course. But when a book is
> criticised specifically because of a
> preceived flaw that will limit its audience(!), that book's
> being a
> zillion-copy bestseller would seem to directly invalidate
> said
> criticism. :)
> 
> On 7/5/09, J. Burke <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> Yes, clearly it's a terrible series,
> >> whose millions of fans wouldn't
> >> know lit'rature if it smacked them across the
> face.
> >> <rolls eyes>.
> >
> > Certainly good or bad writing is a matter of taste to
> some degree, but it's
> > quite possible for bad books to become license to
> print money for the
> > publisher.  There seems to be little or no
> necessary connection between
> > artistic merit and popularity; though some popular
> authors are very good,
> > past and present, while some so-called "literary"
> types are self-indulgent
> > tripe.
> >
> >> Ditto the viewers of the TV adaptation, with all
> that
> >> gratuitous
> >> furrinness for no good reason.
> >>
> >> The criticism is more valid of _Anathem_.
> >>
> >> On 7/5/09, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Lee <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Lee <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Subject: Re: Holly Lisle's Create A
> Language
> >> Clinic
> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:54 AM
> >> >> --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Mark J. Reed
> >> >> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > From: Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Holly Lisle's Create A
> Language
> >> Clinic
> >> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:36
> AM
> >> >> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:52 AM, J.
> >> >> > Burke<[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > > Typical readers don't tend to
> correctly
> >> pronounce
> >> >> odd
> >> >> > names; instead, they simply memorize
> the form
> >> of a
> >> >> name and
> >> >> > read over it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is that true?  I mean, I'll cop to
> being
> >> atypical in
> >> >> > any number of
> >> >> > ways, and the above is true of my
> wife, but
> >> she's a
> >> >> > notoriously bad
> >> >> > speller in general and tends to
> simplify
> >> names to
> >> >> > "D-long-name".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can't get past an unfamiliar word
> in a text
> >> without
> >> >> > mentally
> >> >> > sounding it out...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> My wife and I will look up an unfamiliar
> English
> >> word.
> >> >> Otherwise, any "too" unpronounceable
> names and
> >> foreign words
> >> >> get little more than some like of mental
> >> simplification to
> >> >> get past it quickly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lee
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Interesting.  The use of foreign names and
> titles
> >> was the reason the teacher
> >> > of the writing workshop I'm in right now held
> up
> >> Alexander McCall Smith's
> >> > _The No. 1 Ladies' Decective Agency_ as a
> example of
> >> BAD writing, ie
> >> > something to never, never do.  Apparently,
> he
> >> killed the story on page one
> >> > by throwing in too many foreign words and
> should have
> >> sacrificed
> >> > authenticity for readability if he really
> wanted to
> >> write well.
> >> >
> >> > *miffed at the underlying assumptions*
> >> >
> >> > Adam
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >> Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my mobile device
> 
> Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
> 


      

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