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Re: Holly Lisle's Create A Language Clinic

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Maxime Papillon <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:21:58 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Holly Lisle's Create A Language Clinic
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Maxime
> Papillon<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Whorfian claims asside, this makes me wonder: how DO conlanger express the dozens of snow phenomena there are? Esperanto, one would think, might need to be useful in a skiing context and distiguish the types of snow skiers do, but I can only find the very basic words fo snow, graupel, snowflake, hail, etc.
> 
> Where did you look? In a general-purpose bilingual dictionary, or the
> Plena Ilustrita Vortaro, or what?
> 
> There are a bunch of different Esperanto terminological dictionaries
> for particular professions, arts, hobbies and so forth with technical
> vocbulary that isn't likely to be found in a general-purpose bilingual
> dictionary, or even in PIV. I don't know for sure that there exists
> one for skiing, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'd suspect that most
> of the snow-terms however would be compounds or short phrases based on
> ne- and glaci-.
> 
> gzb is spoken so far only in a region where it snows less than once a
> year on average, and so far it doesn't even have a single word for
> snow as distinct from ice. I'll fix that sooner or later, probably
> next time it snows around here if not sooner, but I don't see any need
> for multiple words for kinds of snow. Brett, in Vermont, may feel
> differently.
> 
> -- 
> Jim Henry
> http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/

 

Thanks. I indeed have no access to technical Esperanto dictionary (or any paper Esperanto dictionary for that matter). I never thought that Esperanto could not distinguish them at all, I only couldn't find any such technical terms. I'd be curious to know whether the terms tend to be calqued on a particular language (or many languages in an ad hoc fashion) or built apriori-ishly.

 

Worse, I've been spending the last two days thinking of a satisfacotory systematic way to derive the many kinds of snow, rain, water, and ice for an eventual engelang. I hope I can find a way to satisfy this urge before I lack too much sleep.

 

Maxime

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