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Re: Venetian Grammar online

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Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:12:30 +0200

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Philip Newton skrev:
> 2009/8/4 Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>:
>> The use of diaphonic spellings (p. 5/4) is
>> facinating.  I think Rumantsch Grischun
>> would have fared better if it had adopted
>> something similar.
> 
> It's hard to say; apparently, the political situation was
> "interesting", to say the least, and that this meant some compromises
> linguistically.
> 
> (ISTR reading that the linguist who drew up RG would much rather have
> taken an existing dialect, say Surmiran - which is geographically in
> the centre, and has some features of both western and eastern dialects
> -, and promoted that as a standard written language, but realised that
> that would have been a complete non-starter, so he drew up the
> existing compromise instead.)

*I* would definitely go about such a thing
by making as extensive use of diaphonic
graphies as necessary to allow anyone to
read out the written form in their own
dialect guided by letter-to-sound rules
which are as context-free as possible[^1].
I'm definitely *not* in favor of glorifying
one dialect over the others in a dialect
continuum: that inevitably spells the death
of the other dialects -- we know that since
that is how standardization has been
effected in most European countries.
Where are Low German and Provençal now?

[^1]: e.g. _ü, ö, ä_ if/where some dialects
have /u o a/ and others have /y 2 E/,
_ï, ë_ where some have /y 2/ and some
have /i e/, _lh_ for /l/~/L/,
_ch_ for /k/~/ts\/, _gh_ for /g/~/dz\/,
_kh_ for /x/ and _ke, ki_
for /ke ki/, and also _sh_ for /Z/
beside _sch_ for /S/, to make it easier
for 'revivalist' learners.

/BP 8^)>
-- 
Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  "C'est en vain que nos Josués littéraires crient
  à la langue de s'arrêter; les langues ni le soleil
  ne s'arrêtent plus. Le jour où elles se *fixent*,
  c'est qu'elles meurent."           (Victor Hugo)

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