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CONLANG  August 2009, Week 3

CONLANG August 2009, Week 3

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Re: Wednesday -- Re: Punctuation, capitalization, collation

From:

"Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:39:54 -0400

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Thanks, Alex and Paul, for confirming that my messages are in fact
comprehensible to someone other than myself.  I was beginning to think
I'd had a stroke or something. :)

On 8/20/09, Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Thomas Alexander<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>> Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> But German has a whole bunch of plural endings <snip>
>>> In German you treat "Wednesdays" in the sense of
>>> "every Wednesday" as an adverb, <snip>
>>> However it's possible to form the plural of day names
>>> as well, e.g. "Ich hasse Montage/Dienstage/Mittwoche/..."
>>
>> I thought I just said that.  :-)
>>
>> "Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> And also because "mittwochs" is not capitalized,
>>> so it's clearly not a noun.
>>> (At least German makes the whole "which nouns
>>> do you capitalize" question trivial. :))
>>
>> I can't tell which part of this is the joke.
>> It sounds like you're using circular reasoning:
>> You can know which words to capitalizing by
>> checking to see whether they're capitalized.
>>
>> Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> > I have always assumed (and thus could be wrong)
>>> > that this habit of adding an S here goes back
>>> > to the shared ancestor of German and English,
>>> > and is thus -- originally, anyway -- the same
>>> > phenominon.
>>>
>>> Actually IIRC it is shared, but it's an adverbial
>>> marker.
>>
>> My point is - adverbial marker in English or not - that
>> at least some native speakers take it for plural,
>> consciously at least.
>>
>>> I perceive a difference between _nights_ in
>>> "I can't sléép nights" and in "I work níghts".
>>
>> My guess is that this is an example of exactly what
>> I'm talking about.  "I sleep (all day) Wednesdays"
>> vs "I work (all day) Wednesdays."  The fact that
>> you perceive these differently is evidence that
>> you're not sure how to analize it -- which is not
>> the case for German (and what about Sweedish?).
>
> Swedish doesn't have an -s form of weekdays. You say _på onsdagar_ "on
> wednesdays" or the like (the preposition is droppable in some contexts
> I can't readily summarize).
>
> --
> Andreas Johansson
>
> Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>

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