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CONLANG August 2009, Week 3

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Re: TECH: inputting IPA/Unicode

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Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:16:19 -0400

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<deinx nxtxr> wrote:
> Herman Miller wrote:
> 
>> In any case, the limitations of Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator are 
>> severely annoying! I've also been using KbdEdit, which has a few more 
>> options, but otherwise has many of the same limitations. You'd think 
>> by now someone would have come up with a Vista keyboard editor that 
>> isn't so limited, but I haven't found one.
> 
> I've figured out how to overcome some of the limitations of MSKLC, but I 
> have XP not Vista.

Well, I could always try it to see if it works in Vista if you have any 
suggestions. One problem that comes up in my IPA notation (although 
uncommon enough that I can work aroun the limitation) is the voiceless 
retroflex lateral fricative in Lindiga. I notate this as U+026C U+0322 
[ɬ̢] which combines to a single character in my Thryomanes font, but in 
order to type it I need to type first the $ key for [ɬ] followed by the 
dead key { and a space to insert the U+0322 diacritic.

>> On the other hand, I didn't need to set up lots of complicated font 
>> options to get complex scripts and Page 1 characters working in Vista 

That should of course read "Plane 1 characters"....

>> like I did with XP. The Tibetan script on the main Wikipedia page 
>> still doesn't look right, but that could be a Firefox bug, and I 
>> haven't yet installed Gothic or Glagolitic fonts so those don't show 
>> up on Wikipedia either.
> 
> Seems to be a font issue more than anything else. I downloaded the 
> Gentium font from SIL, and it does fairly well with most of the Eastern 
> fonts.

I'm sure it's a font issue, but I don't know how to convince Firefox to 
use a suitable font like Tibetan Machine Uni for Tibetan. I think it's 
using Arial Unicode MS even though I don't have it configured to use 
that font. Well, it's not as if I have any need to read Wikipedia in 
Tibetan or Dzongkha, but in most other respects the Wikipedia home page 
looks good in Vista straight out of the box, which required a bit of 
special effort to get it to look right in XP. I did download a Cambodian 
font because the default Windows font for Cambodian was way too small to 
be legible.

> I've sort of figured a way to stack some of the deadkeys.  It only works 
> in certain situations but still better than nothing.

Yes, that could be useful if it frees space on the keyboard since I 
could use a dead key for a character like U+0266 [ɦ] if I can stack dead 
keys to get the superscript version U+02B1 [ʱ], which I rarely need. 
Currently I have [ɦ] on Shift+H so I can type [ʱ] as ^H.

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