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CONLANG  August 2009, Week 4

CONLANG August 2009, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Borrowing Bogus Roots

From:

Daniel Bowman <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:50:46 -0600

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I did this quite by accident once.  There is a mountain range in northern
New Mexico (my home state) called the Sangre de Cristo Mountains.  Knowing
that Sangre de Cristo means "Blood of Christ" I derived the following word
for blood in Angosey:

au kreya

Later, I realized that I had in fact substituted the word for Christ
(Cristo) for blood (Sangre).  I didn't care: au kreya sounds a lot more
Angosian than au sangre.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Eugene Oh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm guessing you're not the first person to be using this method, nor me!
> One of the Arithide words I derived by this method was "ellas", meaning
> "school". It came, without much alteration, from "Hellas", the Ancient
> Greek
> name for Greece. IIRC.
>
> There are many more where that came from, e.g. "kreisantir" = kreis
> "beloved" + santir "grief" (from "chrysanthemum", which in Chinese culture
> symbolises death and it presented at funerals). The word means "grief of
> losing a loved one"/"pain of bereavement".
>
> Eugene
>
> 2009/8/27 Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > It might be interesting to discover roots for a conlang by extracting
> > them, via bogus analysis, from existing natlang words or place names.
> > For example, one might use the bogus composition "Himalaya = hima
> > (lofty) + laya (mountain)" and "Kalahari = kala (hot) + hari (sand)",
> > so that a new word, "kalalaya", might be "volcano" while "himahari"
> > might be "plateau".
> >
> > The trick is to find "roots" that are consistent across numerous
> > existing words, like: "zo + n = life + GEN" in "Amazon = ama (mother)
> > + zon (of life)" and "Arizona = ari (difficult) + zo (life) + n(i)a
> > (place of) (var of Arizonia)" and "Kalamazoo = kal (happy) + ama
> > (mother) + zo + o (verb form of "life") i.e. place where happy mother
> > lives". That way one can be more sure of the correctness of one's
> > bogus roots.
> >
> > By discovering enough bogus roots and phony derivations one could
> > discover an entire bogus language hidden within an existing language.
> >
> > --gary
> >
>



-- 
Daniel C. Bowman
8100 Barstow NE #2204
Albuquerque, NM 87122
phone: 575-418-8555

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