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CONLANG  August 2009, Week 4

CONLANG August 2009, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Borrowing Bogus Roots

From:

Eric Christopherson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:51:48 -0500

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On Aug 26, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Eugene Oh wrote:

> I'm guessing you're not the first person to be using this method,  
> nor me!
> One of the Arithide words I derived by this method was "ellas",  
> meaning
> "school". It came, without much alteration, from "Hellas", the  
> Ancient Greek
> name for Greece. IIRC.
>
> There are many more where that came from, e.g. "kreisantir" = kreis
> "beloved" + santir "grief" (from "chrysanthemum", which in Chinese  
> culture
> symbolises death and it presented at funerals). The word means  
> "grief of
> losing a loved one"/"pain of bereavement".

I have a few words like this, but usually unintentionally; I try to  
keep outside words out of my a priori conlangs, but some words are  
just so good they have to stay.

Examples in Dhaqran that I've realized and recorded:
- The name /Daqra/ itself is derived from English _dragon_, Latin  
_draco_, etc. The Dhaqra were originally conceived of as dragon-like  
humanoids, but I'm not sure anymore if they are.
- /kisab/ for the verb "write", from Semitic KTB and especially Arabic  
_kitaab_ "book". I've struggled with this one for a while because I  
really like it but it's also really obviously similar to Semitic.
- /pani?/ meaning "hand". I didn't realize it until later, but I think  
this was inspired by the C++ header file <iomanip>, where _manip_ =  
manipulation... thus hand.
- /Tunil/ meaning "star". Initially this word came from a list of  
words starting with each consonant phoneme in the language (I was  
going to use them as names for letters). Originally I had the meaning  
down as "stream"; later for an unknown reason I changed it to "star".  
Only later did I realize the inspiration of that: Sindarin  
_Gilthoniel_ "Star-Kindler"! Oddly enough, the part of that compound  
that means "star" (or "spark") is _gil_, not _thoniel_.

(I may or may not switch Dhaqran to use a Semitic-style consonant  
skeleton, so the vowels may not be final.)

Examples in another possible lang:
- /bsrag/ "speak"; possibly part of the name of the language. I feel  
pretty sure I got this from Tibetan (it appears in some online  
romanized Tibetan texts), but I can't figure out what it means.
- /ndasrup tS)o:r1m/ a person's name. It took me a while to realize  
that I got the second part from _sang-sun cho-rim_, a braised tilapia  
dish at a restaurant. It took me even longer to connect /ndasrup/ to  
_Mesrop_, an Armenian name (namely of the inventor of the Armenian  
alphabet).

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