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CONLANG  November 2009, Week 3

CONLANG November 2009, Week 3

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Re: Phonological additions to Tsa'in

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Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:51:10 -0500

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:08:22 -0800, Jesse Bangs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> Onsets:
>>
>> p t     k 0
>>  ts tS
>>  s  S
>> [snip]
>> Codas:
>>
>> p b  t d     k g  0
>>  m    n       N
>>      l       5
>>      ts  tS
>>      s   S
>
>This is actually *very* unusual: almost all languages have more onsets
>than codas, and if they have segments that only occur in a coda (like
>English /N/) they tend to have restricted distribution and/or fuzzy
>phonemic status. You have a voice contrast and an entire nasal series
>that only occurs in codas! This is far more surprising to me than
>anything you mention below.

Sure; but on the other hand I think I've seen several examples of languages
which have fairly restricted occurrence of sonorants in onsets.  Ket is the
one I was looking at most recently; in its inherited vocabulary, as
reconstructed according to the Dene-Yeniseic hypothesis, all the historical
initial nasals and ?liquids (just /l/) and glides have changed to sonorants
of some sort.  Most of its inherited vocabulary is monosyllabic and looks in
composition, at least segmentally (ignoring /?/ and /h/ on the Tsa'in side),
much like this wordstock would.  

>> Syllables (and here's where the notion of "syllable" gets a bit abstract,
>> and the notion of "vowel" for that matter) can be "glottalized". What this
>> means is that they may take an inserted /?/ (written with an apos'phe,
>> alphabetically ordered after "y"). Syllables with short vowels may only take
>> the /?/ between the onset and the vowel, where it is realized as ejectivity,
>> for instance "p'a^g" /p_>Ag/. Syllables with long vowels may take the /?/
>> between the onset and the vowel ("p'a^a^g" /p_>A:g/) or "in the middle"
of the
>> vowel, where it is realised as a full glottal stop ("pa^'a^g" /pA?Ag/).
>> Similarly, syllables with diphthongs may take the /?/ between the onset and
>> vowel ("p'a^yg" /p_>Ajg/) or "in the middle" of the diphthong, in which case
>> the /j/ becomes an /i/, and is likewise written "i" ("pa^'ig" /pA?ig/).
>
>I like this, though I question what would make you analyze it this
>way. 

I really like this too.  [V?V] and [VhV] sequences being treated as single
vowels seems plausible -- at least I've seen several natlangs where there
tend to be vowel assimilation processes across a glottal segment, which it
seems could easily lead to this if the whole vowel doesn't turn into a
glottalised (velc.) simplex first.  (Perhaps that's the allegro-speech
realisation in Tsa'in?)  

The analysis is clever, and as others have said perhaps not entirely
motivated on the grounds of what you've given us, but I like it -- up to one
vowel mora can be glotallised, which is realised as a secondary feature on
the C immediately before it, which might be zero.

Alex 

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