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AUXLANG  December 2009, Week 4

AUXLANG December 2009, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Achievements of the year

From:

Olivier Simon <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:33:17 -0500

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>But If we add the second part of your language name "Mundialect" then
>people will pronounce it "Sambasaton mundialect"
>In Arabic the genetive case changes the way the word is pronounced.
>This is one of the things which make Arabic difficult and challenging. They are
>not present in everyday Arabic dialects.

Yes, that's right for the genitive; but here this is not "sambahsa of 
mundialect" but a juxtaposition of two equal words


>
>I think you mean Ha' (  ) and not Ta' (  )
>In this case, yes! it is logical ,but also the way I have written it is not 
wrong .
>Therefore you would find some Arabs who write in my way and other who will
>write it in your way. Because we do not stress a final "a". That is why even if
>I had written it  it would not be wrong. Remember it's not an Arabic 
word.
>
If you prefer, "sambahsa" would be written, with a different orthographical 
system "sambsa"; but here the "h" has a double function: 
- it lenghtens the preceding "h"
- it preserves the pronunciation of "s" in [s]; otherwise, a single "s" is 
pronounced [z] between two vowels. 


>
>But I will tell you why I write it in my way.
>The reason is the original latin script in English language. I will tell you what I
>have noticed.
>In France you have a famous player named ( Nicola Anelka )
>So Arabs always write it with Alef. (  )

It's "Nicolas" exactly, but the final "s" is not pronounced. There is a difference 
between French and many other languages (ex: Italian). In French, the last 
vowel is always stressed (except a final "e" without a diacritic); it's a very 
easy system. That's why the last "a" of "Anelka" is stressed. 

>But In Germany there is a player named ( Miroslav Klose )
>So Arabs write it with Ha'. (  ) which has a slight sound of H.
>That is why I don't like to write the final "a" sound with the letter
>Ha' ,because I don't want readers to get confused and pronounce it like the
>final German "e"

Yes, here it's more logical to act this way, since Standard Arabic does not 
include the sound corresponding to the one used in German (a "schwa" 
sound). And it is the "o" of "Klose" which is stressed. 

>That is the way of transcription into Arabic that I adopt. And I think it's good
>to preserve the original sound without confusion since we do not have the
>problem of stressing the final Alef. And I recommend this way. Actually if you
>want to stress the final Alef. You add to it Ha'
>
>
>In few words (write it with Alef unless you want Arabs to pronounce a slight 
H
>at the end of Sambahsa) . Arabic is phonetic. And the majority of people who
>read the name of your language for the first time will pronounce it literally
>Sambaasah.

Good ! They may have fun with the optional system which allows some words 
to be written with the Arabic script : http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/Arab-
harifs-in-sambahsa

Olivier
http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/ 

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