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CONLANG  December 2009, Week 4

CONLANG December 2009, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Something the world does NOT need: YAPA

From:

Steven Lytle <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:43:16 -0500

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I also distinguish between "cot" and "caught" (and "Don" and "dawn"), but
not the various "marry/merry/Mary"s.

stevo

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Kenner Gordon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I say them the same as well; the difference (which only appears in New
> England and outside the US) is that "bother" has a rounded one. I'm mostly
> objecting to him distinguishing between "caught" and "cot" but also making
> "father" and "bother" rhyme.
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Steven Lytle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Wow, this is almost the same as what I came up with a few years ago, but
> I
> > had oy and aw instead of Y and W, and I used W for 'a' in "ball" (bXl).
> > What's the difference between the stressed vowels in "father" and
> "bother"?
> > I say them the same.
> >
> > stevo
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Kenner Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'd recommend including phonemes not present in your accent;
> > particularly,
> > > distinguishing between the stressed vowels in "father" and "bother".
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Dirk Elzinga <[log in to unmask]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > This looks like a workable solution to me. The only thing that makes
> me
> > > > uncomfortable is your mapping of "long" vowels--using [I] for 'bite',
> > [E]
> > > > for 'beet', etc. I'd prefer something closer to IPA ([i] 'beet', [I]
> > > 'bit',
> > > > [e] 'bait', [E] 'bet' etc). But that's the linguist in me.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Gary Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But I'm doing it anyway and you can't stop me. So there. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Working out my English phonetic dictionary I debated which phonetic
> > > > > alphabet to use in the file. IPA take oddball characters making
> > > > > programming more complicated. SAMPA has symbols that are multiple
> > > > > characters in length, which makes parsing the phonetic version
> > > > > needlessly difficult. ARPA came up with something called the
> ARPAbet
> > > > > for use with speech synthesis, but it uses only upper case ASCII
> and,
> > > > > like SAMPA has variable length symbols.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want a phonetic alphabet for English for internal use in my
> > database
> > > > > files that uses a single ASCII character for each of the 39 English
> > > > > sounds. And while the world certainly does not need yet another
> > > > > phonetic alphabet, I went ahead and made a new one anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is for common pronunciation of American English, and as such
> > > > > lacks any non-English sounds.
> > > > >
> > > > >        a  bat bat
> > > > >        A  bait bAt
> > > > >        e  bet bet
> > > > >        E  beet bEt
> > > > >        i  bit bit
> > > > >        I  bite bIt
> > > > >        o  hot hot
> > > > >        O  boat bOt
> > > > >        u  but but
> > > > >        U  boot bUt
> > > > >        Y  boy bY
> > > > >        W  book bWk
> > > > >        X  ball bXl
> > > > >        Q  now nQ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >        b  bib bib
> > > > >        C  church CRC
> > > > >        d  did did
> > > > >        D  thee DE
> > > > >        f  fee fE
> > > > >        g  gag gag
> > > > >        h  high hI
> > > > >        j  judge juj
> > > > >        k  kick kik
> > > > >        l  lull lul
> > > > >        m  mom mom
> > > > >        n  nine nIn
> > > > >        N  sing siN
> > > > >        p  pip pip
> > > > >        r  roar rOr
> > > > >        R  her hR
> > > > >        s  sis sis
> > > > >        S  shoe SU
> > > > >        t  tot tot
> > > > >        T  thin Tin
> > > > >        v  valve valv
> > > > >        w  wow wQ
> > > > >        y  yes yes
> > > > >        z  zoo zU
> > > > >        Z  measure meZR
> > > > >
> > > > > --gary
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *** You have died ***
> > >
> > > Would you like to RESTART, REPLY to this e-mail, or QUIT?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>  *** You have died ***
>
> Would you like to RESTART, REPLY to this e-mail, or QUIT?
> >
>

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