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AUXLANG January 2010, Week 1

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Re: Why auxlangers should support Na'vi

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"<deinx nxtxr>" <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:36:39 -0500

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MacLeod Dave wrote:

>> Did you pay attention to the part about attention span?
> 
> Yep, that's why I referenced your average conlanger - attention span
> of a gnat to a single project because they always have half a dozen
> other things on the go. Find one problem with a language being created
> and they drop it and go on to something else.

Not just conlangers.  People in general don't have much attention span, 
and the people in the media are some of the biggets gnats of all, moving 
about from one hot-story-du-jour to the next.  Also realize that 
interest in the film does not equate to people learning the language. 
Star Trek has one of the largest cult followings yet only a handful have 
bothered to learn more than a phrase or two of Klingon.



>>> Eh, no. That was a movie geared towards one religion, minus a sequel,
>>> and it really isn't the kind of movie people watch over and over
>>> again. If it was a film about an Aramaic guy with a hot wife and a lot
>>> of other photogenic characters that was quickly approaching a billion
>>> dollars and was going to have two sequels then you probably would have
>>> seen a lot of interest in the language. Or if Gladiator was in Latin,
>>> grossed about three times or more what it did and had two sequels you
>>> bet there would be a lot of interest in Latin as a result.
>> The film was still highly successful, seen by millions of people.  The
>> decision to make a sequel is a business decision.  Obviously Mel didn't have
>> any reason for making one, instead moving on to other projects he wanted to
>> pursue.  I haven't seen the film but would may watch it something because of
>> its artistic value even though I don't subscribe to those religious beliefs.
> 
> Well, speaking as a Christian it wasn't all that great. Too much focus
> on the whipping and execution and barely anything about what Jesus
> actually said. The best parts of the gospel are always when he goes
> around and says something clever. So it didn't even make me want to
> see it a second time. Plus it also used Latin (Romans whipping Jesus
> counted in Latin and I think there were some other scenes there too)
> so the languages in the movie were more just there to be authentic,
> and no appeal to any sort of Aramaic or Latin-based culture.

"Speaking as a Christian", meaning you somehow disagreed with the story. 
   ISTR the point of the film was to highlight the suffering endured so 
from a filmaker/storyteller's point of view it hit the nail right on the 
head (couldn't resist saying that).  If anything I'd expect there would 
be some religious zealots out there wanting to learn the language of 
their savior, but no.



>> Sequels rarely
>> do as well as originals,
> 
> Depends on the sequel. I'm expecting more of an X-Men 2 or Empire
> Strikes Back type sequel, because the original Avatar movie was
> comparable to the first in those three as the audience reaction was
> largely unknown, and they could have been flops. After the first one
> succeeds though there's a lot more artistic licence in the second, and
> then the third usually wraps up and isn't quite as interesting as the
> second. Then again Matrix 2 was just wretched. The only rule about
> sequels is that you never know.

I didn't say never, just that's is usually not the case.  Star Trek 
being a good example.  The first movie was pretty good the second was 
okay and the third was absolutely awful.  The ones that followed may as 
well have just been episodes of the series.  I'll agree with you about 
The Empire Strikes Back being better but Return Of The Jedi was really 
stupid.  Looked like a episode of the Muppet Show to me.  I happen to 
have the whole box set of the original Planet Of The Apes films.  The 
storyline for the whole series is pretty good but you can see an overall 
decline in the production quality with each one because the budgets kept 
getting smaller with each one, obviously because interest was waning.

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