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CONLANG  January 2010, Week 3

CONLANG January 2010, Week 3

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Re: Conlang translation

From:

Daniel Bowman <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:21:07 -0700

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I promise I'll go with the more literal translation style with the relay!

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Daniel Bowman <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> Some of the responses to my message yesterday "The Strange Ecstasy of
> Creation" have made me realize that I have a certain attitude towards the
> use
> of translation in my conlang, and that my attitude may differ substantially
> from
> others on this list.
>
> First of all:  how do you approach translation from a natlang into your
> conlang(s)?  Do you attempt to preserve the literal meaning, do you take
> liberties with the meaning in order to retain the sense of the original, or
> do you
> use translation as a method to transform or internalize the text into your
> own
> (or your conlang's) world?
>
> For me, I use the first and second methods only when translating a passage
> for
> someone else, which happens rarely.  For example, this happened once in
> high
> school, where I translated a dialogue for a novel as literally as possible
> on
> behalf of a friend of mine.  The second time, I translated Psalm 23 for the
> same
> friend in a different novel, but took a few small liberties with it.
>
> However, when I approach something like "The Strange Ecstasy of Creation" I
> want to Angosey-ize it; I want to less translate and more transform it into
> something that feels "right" in Angosey just as it feels "right" in
> English.  It's not
> a strict translation in any sense, and perhaps "translation" is not the
> best term
> for it.
>
> A friend of mine remarked that I use Angosey to make writing or speech "my
> own" through translating it, if that makes sense.
>
> In posting "The Strange Ecstasy of Creation" I was curious to see how
> semantically challenging the poem was (Kate pointed out quite well the
> various
> possible interpretations of the last 2 lines, several of which had not
> occurred to
> me though the poem is almost 5 years old).  However, I was much more
> interested in seeing how the meaning was transformed by the filter of an
> individual conlang, yielding Arthaey's "my writing brush explores",
> Methchild's "I
> write myself a continuing temporary solution" and Amanda's "for me I
> write."
>
> Very interesting!  I can't wait to see what the next relay comes up with.
>  Some
> of the old ones change pretty spectacularly.
>
> Danny
>



-- 
Ayryea zakayro al Gayaltha
al halath zirathna eme ndatsa.
Kou eleo haraya el isha,
Sa vathna sey elenanara sia.

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