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CONLANG  March 2010, Week 3

CONLANG March 2010, Week 3

Subject:

Re: WHATL / TAKE question

From:

Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:00:10 +0100

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2010/3/14 R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>:
> Anyone care to do hellenized Pinyin?    :)

Here's an attempt - assuming that Mandarin Chinese plays a similar
role to our timeline, and that we're not trying to imitate Jyutping or
Peh-oe-ji or the like....

Initials: β π μ φ δ τ ν λ γ κ χ δζι τσι σι δρ τρ σρ ρ δζ τσ σ /p p_h m
f t t_h n l k k_h x ts\) ts\)_h s\ ts`) ts`)_h s` r\`~z` ts) ts)_h s/

Medials: 0 ι υ ιυ /0 j w H/ (as medials) ~ /0 i u y/ (as finals)

Finals: 0 α αι αυ αν αγγ ε ει ου εν εγγ /pronunciation varies
depending on the medial/

This would be a fairly phonemic representation; a more phonetic one is
also conceivable (e.g. PY _luo, mo, lin_ being _λυο, μο, λιν_ rather
than _λυε, μυε, λιεν_).

This scheme treats the alveolopalatals as allophones of the alveolars
(like Tongyong Pinyin and Cyrillic/Palladius, apparently).

A sample of text (UDHR, from Omniglot.com):

人人生而自由﹐在尊嚴和權利上一律平等。他們賦有理性和良心﹐並應以兄弟關係的精神互相對待。
人人生而自由,在尊严和权利上一律平等。他们赋有理性和良心,并应以兄弟关系的精神互相对待。

Rénrén shēng ér zìyóu, zài zūnyán hé quánlì shàng yīlù píngděng. Tāmen
fùyǒu lǐxìng hé liángxīn, bìng yīng yǐ xiōngdì guānxì de jīngshén
hùxiāng duìdài.

Ρέν-ρέν σρεγγ άρ δζ̀-ιόυ, δζὰι δζυεν-ιάν χέ τσιυάν-λὶ σρὰγγ ι-λὺ
πιέγγ-δε͂γγ. Τα-μεν φὺ-ιο͂υ λῖ-σιὲγγ χέ λιάγγ-σιεν, βιὲγγ ιεγγ ῖ
σιυεγγ-δὶ γυαν-σὶ δε δζιεγγ-σρέν χὺ-σιαγγ δυὲι-δὰι.

As you can see, tone 1 /55/ is unmarked (as is tone 5/neutral/light
tone), tone 2 /35/ is oxeia/acute, tone 3 /214/ is
perispo:mene:/circumflex, and tone 4 /51/ is bareia/grave.

"nu/nü" are distinguished as νυ/νιυ (while "niu" is νιου).

I hyphenated everything since I think otherwise a consonant before ι υ
would be ambiguous as to which syllable it belonged (Is υενιαν υεν-ιαν
"wenyan", υε-νι-αν "woni'an", or υε-νιαν "wonian"? Or even υ-εν-ι-αν
"wuenyian"?)

Thoughts welcome.

Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

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