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CONLANG March 2010, Week 5

Subject:

Re: Egorigok

From:

Peter Bleackley <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:21:54 +0100

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On 29/03/2010 14:53, John Vertical wrote:
>> "egorigok" is a word that I created by automatic writing in the early
>> stages of developing Khangaþyagon, but it never really fitted in. While
>> it doesn't violate any phonological or phonotactic constraints, it's
>> just not phonaesthetically right.
>>
>> However, I do have a morphological analysis of the word, that shows how
>> it's built up in whatever language it does belong to.
>>
>> Start with the root
>> igo
>> Reduplicating this gives
>> *igoigo
>> You can see what's wrong with this at first glance. Obviously, vowels
>> that differ in both frontness and roundedness can't occur in hiatus. We
>> need an epenthetic r in there, giving
>> igorigo
>
> Is r-epenthesis regular in Khangaþyagon or some other project of yours?
> Because I'm tempted to analyze this as _partial_ reduplication of an
> ideophone /rigo/ or /igor/. Compare "itsy-bitsy", "eeny meeny", "ooga booga"
> or "aye yi yi" (BTW that last one always looked silly to me spell'd out;
> shouldn't it be *i yi yi? As written I'm tempted to read it as /aH:e ji ji/!)
>

The analysis has nothing to do with Khangaþyagon. I just made up the 
analysis to go with the word.

> Anyway, I agree with Jörg in that /igorigo/ would be a fine root for "toad"
> or "frog".
>
>
>> We then add a prefix æ, thus giving
>> *æigorigo
>> But since æ and i have the same frontness and roundedness, they merge to
>> give
>> egorigo
>> Finally, we add the suffix -k to give
>> egorigok
>>
>> However, I've no idea what the semantics of this is. Anyone like to
>> attach meanings to the above?
>>
>> Pete
>
> These are non-Khangaþyagon affixes too? At least the first sounds like it's
> functioning within its phonology.
>
Everything is non-Khangaþyagon - egorigok didn't fit in there, so this 
analysis is basically playing around with an orphaned word and seeing 
what we can do with it.

Pete
> If we assume it's a loanword from a different language, let's say i->  e-
> (however you analyze that) marks adjectivization, and the -k is a nominativ
> suffix, implying a zero-derived deadjectival noun. Thus, /egorigok/ (from
> *æigorigok, if you will) would translate as "a frog-like thing". Sounds good
> for some mythological purpose.
>
> John Vertical

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