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Re: OT : atheism

From:

Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:59:25 -0700

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On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I continue to differentiate terms religious/religion and spiritual/spirituality, while common usage seems to be gradually merging them.
>
> Among Catholics, at least, the term "spirituality" is more specific
> than "religion"; it tends to refer to particular sets of emphases and
> optional practices in which people who believe and practice the same
> religion can differ.  For instance, there are spiritualities
> associated with particular saints and the religious orders or lay
> organizations they founded or which were founded by others under their
> influence: Franciscan, Dominican, Jesuit, etc.  The word is rarely
> used by Protestants in my experience.
>
>> I also find myself unconsciously adding a connotation of superficiality to the term spiritual, because most people I encounter who apply the term [spiritual] to themselves IMO generally have not put much thought into their religious and theological beliefs.
>
> The adjective "spiritual", as applied to persons, is in my experience
> usually a term of approbation -- such and such person is more aware
> of/attentive to spiritual things than the average person.  It's
> stronger than "pious" or "religious" and somewhat less so than "holy"
> or "godly"; but it seems boastful to apply it to oneself... unless the
> people you're talking about are non-Christians or those with religious
> beliefs but not members of a specific organized religion: in which
> case, I would suggest, all terminological bets are off.  Such people
> may tend to be as Humpty-Dumptyish in making up their own terminology
> to describe their own experiences than conlangers describing the
> atypical grammatical structures of their conlangs.  (We've seen
> elsethread how non-religious people with similar (non)beliefs can use
> different terminology to describe themselves, or vice versa; it seems
> to be much the same with religious people who aren't part of a
> particular tradition.)  In this and related semantic fields, I
> wouldn't expect words to consistently mean the same thing except
> within a particular religious tradition.

IME, and I live in Berkeley so my experience may be a bit
idiosyncratic, people who call themselves "spiritual" mean that they
hold certain religion-like metaphysical beliefs (WRT the soul,
afterlife, supernatural entities, etc.) but do not belong to any
organized religion. "New Age" in other words, usually.

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