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Re: OT : atheism

From:

Douglas Koller <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:23:28 +0000

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---- "Gary Shannon" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 

> As is often the case, one must distinguish between what a word "really 
> means", and how it is used by the common folk. 

> Based on many long and heated debates on some religion, politics, and 
> general forums that I frequent, the common understanding among the 
> non-academic population is that an atheist holds a belief in the 
> non-existence of any kind of god or gods, as opposed to the lack of 
> any belief with respect to the matter. This is the most frequently 
> mentioned definition by those who are self-professed atheists among my 
> fellow forum members. 

> From a purely scientific perspective, the existence of God (in general 
> or in any particular version) cannot be proven. Likewise, the 
> non-existence of any and all gods cannot be proven. Therefore Theism 
> is a belief system based on faith in the non-provable existence of 
> God, while Atheism is a belief system based on faith in the 
> non-provable non-existence of God, and agnosticism is a belief that 
> the question is undecidable. As such, agnosticism is the only 
> logically justifiable position. In spite of that, I choose to be a 
> theist as a matter of personal preference. (I do not necessarily 
> believe that God created the Universe, however. He may, in fact, be an 
> epiphenomenon that arose AFTER the big bang. Who knows?) 

> This remains an area where no one person may legitimately claim 
> privileged knowledge, and where everyone's personal choice of belief 
> or non-belief must be respected. Not only out of common courtesy, but 
> because no stronger position can be justified by science or logic, 
> regardless of what is said by extremists from either pole of the 
> dogmatic spectrum. 

> The only definite statement that can be made on the subject is that it 
> is not irrational to believe in God, it is not irrational to 
> disbelieve in God, and it is not irrational to suspend judgment on the 
> whole issue. Therefore, none of us is irrational. Suppose we just 
> leave it at that. 

I quite agree. But sans the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Salem witch hunts, Northern Ireland, Israel, pick a jihad, history would be rather a big yawn, don't you think? :) 

I liked your argument, but rather than saying "you had me up to the point where...", I find myself saying "Wha?" up at the beginning. "The common folk?", "Non-academic population?" Are we not hoi polloi, ourselves? If it is not irrational to suspend judgement, why the academic/non-academic, illuminated/common folk divide? 

Kou 

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