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CONLANG June 2010, Week 2

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Re: Con-culture/religion etc.--longish (was OT : atheism)

From:

Garth Wallace <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:57:53 -0700

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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Lars Finsen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Den 11. jun. 2010 kl. 18.43 skreiv Jörg Rhiemeier:
>
>> What regards my own conpoeple, they are humans and have a religion.
>> That religion changed over time, of course.  In the classical era
>> of the Commonwealth of the Elves, the religion was a kind of
>> monotheism, worshipping the unfathomable universal god Ea, though
>> older polytheistic deities continued as angelic spirits, the Veni.
>> The Elves believed that human beings were created by Ea with the
>> purpose of guarding and enriching the world by creating new and
>> beautiful things, and for that purpose were endowed with free will.
>
> Much more charming than most earthly religions, I must say.
>
> My Urianians have a typical IE polytheism, but developed in certain
> interesting ways, I think. I'd like to mention the creation myth here.
>
> Dius of Simuda had two sons, Jemios and Wirnos, whom he both loved, but
> Jemios was his favourite. Jemios was an expert in a board game called
> virdon. But one day, Wirnos won. "Look at me!" he said to his father, but
> Dius dismissed it as a freak of chance. Wirnos now went mad and hit his
> brother on the head with a stone, breaking his skull. To atone for his
> crime, Wirnos went on to form his brother's corpse into a world, turning his
> flesh to soil, bones to rock, blood to water, hair into forests, the nose
> into a mountain, the eyes into lakes, the kidney into copper, the liver into
> iron and the intestine into the big worm who digs in the earth, shakes it
> and breathes fire. The lungs and stomach he gave to his father, but he kept
> the heart to himself.
>
> Then he cut of the penis and the balls, hung them in a string around his
> neck and left Simuda to wander in Jemios, his new world. And it was a good
> world, because Dius loved his dead son. One day he came to a lake in the
> mountains, the gleaming lake Qenowa. Down in the lake shone a light,
> Swelnos, the light of life. Wirnos desired this treasure, but a giant, Rinos
> blocked his path. Rinos attacked, but Wirnos struck him with his brother's
> penis and he fell dead on the lakeside. Just then, Zasnuwios sprang forth,
> another giant. But he met the same fate. A third giant, Nilos, tried to stop
> Wirnos, but failed. And now the lake had run out of giant protectors. Wirnos
> now threw his brother's genitals into the lake, which started to overflow,
> and the three giants on the lakeside turned into rivers, the three great
> rivers of the world that flow with life into Jemios.
>
> Then the fiery Aja rose from the waters, and from Simuda, Murtonos
> descended. With Wirnos Aja, the goddess of life, begat the gods who live and
> live, and to Murtonos, the god of death, she bore men and animals and
> everything that lives and dies. Men are bound to Jemios, and the gods are
> only seen in Simuda, but each can wander in the other world when they sleep
> or die or perform some special trick that is available only to certain
> initiated individuals.

Are they close to the Germanic branch? I see a variation of the Ymir
myth in there, I believe.

> As you can see, the more primeval titanic gods are still part of the Olympic
> pantheon, so it seems the Urianians don't believe in a rebellion against
> them. Rather it's reduced to a brotherly squibble about a game of virdos.
> That sets them apart from other Indoeuropeans, I guess.

Didn't that take the form of the Aesir/Vanir or Asura/Deva splits elsewhere?

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