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CONLANG  September 2010, Week 4

CONLANG September 2010, Week 4

Subject:

Future Mandarin (was: Re: Tone death)

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John Vertical <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:02:41 -0400

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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:26:21 -0500, Patrick Dunn wrote:
>If I were to create a Future World Mandarin, I'd have to hack out the
>phonology.  But every set of changes I imagine leads to a much more
>ambiguous language.  I'd love to get rid of the aspirated stops
>replacing them with fricatives, but doing so makes a stew of the
>language, esp. if I snip away tone.

Well, the voiceless/aspirate distinction in Sinitic it pretty sturdy. Could
it drift towards a voiced/voiceless distinction? (But - since English seems
to be rather headed towards an aspiration system, I suppose it could quite
well simply persist.)

> I'd also love to get rid of the retroflex consonants, as much as I enjoy
>them in actual Mandarin.  But I have no idea what a retroflex consonant
>might realistically change into.

Since they don't contrast with the palatals, a merger into a single
postalveolar series seems pretty likely.

>And then there's what to do with the other vowels.

One of the main Mandarin features is that there's a huge load of difthongs
but no vowel length. Let's fix that first:
ei (> e:) > i:
ai > ɛ: > e:
au > ɔ: > o:
ou (> o:) > u:
And supposing a huge load of compounding, there will be an inordinate amount
of n/N + consonant clusters. This seems liable to collapse to a single
homorganic nasal, but before that, it could probably introduce some vowel
effects, eg. an Aŋ > an on?

Compounding also provides an opportunity for medial lenition, if you think
eg. widescale aspirate fricativization would be too rash. Perhaps, have
stops remain aspirated/unaspirated initially, but medially change them to
voiced/unvoiced, then fricativize if intervocalic? [v θ ð γ] would remain
allophonic with /b t d g/ (and if you first have /x/ lenite to /h/, also [x]
with /k/). Affricates might resist lenition here (there are examples of this
sort of thing).

I have no idea what all the medials would do… wɔ ɥœ jɛ  simply > ɔ œ ɛ is
possible, but that still leaves a lot. Metathesize these medially to
generate new falling difthongs? Take a cue from Germanic and have Cw Cj
geminate in various ways?

And speaking of Germanic, umlaut would be a way to completely wreck things
up, if that's your thing…

John Vertical

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