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CONLANG  October 2010, Week 5

CONLANG October 2010, Week 5

Subject:

Re: changes of liquids

From:

Roman Rausch <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:26:42 -0400

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> Hardly.  I'd say things like nasals and the unmarked stop series are far
> stabler (in strong positions at least).  IMO the historic west Eurasian
> languages are a bit unrepresentative this way; if one was raised on East
> Asian diachrony, say, I doubt one would have gotten your impression. 

At least they represent the west of Eurasia which is already a lot. :-) But
how common are liquids among those East-Asian languages which like to change
them, and how consonantal are they in general? Most of the mentioned changes
are intervocalic or initial, but I'm also interested in clusters. Here I
found a paper on consonant clusters in Tai: http://www.jstor.org/pss/410135
But the changes there lead to many homophones and very similar results
across the daughter languages.

What I'm specifically looking for is a broad differentiation of liquids (in
particular in combination with stops, since my proto-language doesn't really
have single liquids), just like a labialized k may result in a whole palette
[k], [kv], [W], [p], [f], [t] or a palatalized k may result in [k], [tS],
[s], [T], [C], [ts], [t].
Let's take [kl], [kr]. So far I get [kl] > [k], [kw]/[kj], [K], [tS], [l]
and [kr] > [k], [r_0], [x], [kz`], [r] (excluding mergers between the two).

> Armenian experienced [5] > [R]; some
> Albanian dialects show [5] ~ [D]; Scottish Gaelic has dialect areas where
> its [5_d] becomes [D_G] or even [t_d_G] (note that unlike fricatives there's
> no voicing contrast in stops, just aspiration).

> Oh yeah, the proto-Mayan *[r] went to [j] universally in one subbranch, and
> onset [tS] coda [t] in another. 

Those are.. weird.

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