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CONLANG  November 2010, Week 4

CONLANG November 2010, Week 4

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Re: Readability scores for conlangs?

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Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:27:56 -0800

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I've done another word count, with revisions. In Kash, I call the 3s ya- verbal pfx. = 2 morphemes, not one as before. Similarly the mi- pfx '1pl' = 2. I'm beginning to think I should have included _case_ with some(all?) of the nouns, perhaps _nominative_(evem though it's unmarked in all nouns), and some accusatives of neuters-- even though neut.nom/acc is unmarked, still neut.nouns are accusative by position after some prepositions. I did count _dative, genitive_, and of course plurals. 

Major revisions in the English: "I" is now = 2 morphemes (should probably be 3-- 1-sing + nominative; "me" is 3, 1-sing-obl. Similarly, was/were are now 3 be+past+sing/pl, and similarly is/are =3, be-pres-sing/pl. Is this legit??  The case problem seems only to affect pronouns in Engl.

Plus I've now done both paragraphs, for a total of 212 Kash words and 342 morphemes (or 348 including doubtful compounds), 268 Engl. words and 392 (or 394) morphemes.  (In the first go-round I added up the Kash words of the 1st para. incorrectly, and I mistakenly computed the MPW for Eng., should have been 1.46  :-(((( )  Perhaps someone who actually knows how to count morphemes can advise me..........

This now works out to Kash 342/212 = 1.61 mpw

Engl. 391/268 = 1.46 mpw.

If anyone wants to check or revise my figures, I can send you the work-sheet; it's too complicated to put online I think (beyond my ability and/or patience at the mo.)  But given my apparent inability to count/add/divide correctly it might be an exercise in futility. 
-------------------------------------------------

--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I just did a quick morpheme and word count of a relatively
> short paragraph in my LoCoWriMo story. There was only a
> little bit of dialogue, which would tend to eliminate
> certain morphemes--
> 
> Kash: 48 words, 86 morphemes (or 90, if I were to count
> certain compounds differently, e.g. _tati_ 'nor' = ta 'not'
> + iti 'or' 1 or 2?,  kaņavumut 'police' = kaN
> 'nominalizer' + yavu 'to guard' + umut 'public' 2
> (noml.+yavumut) or 3? -- not sure that tati would be
> considered a "transparent" compound; but I think the
> 'police' word would be.) Another possible error: I counted
> pfx. mi- 'we' as 1, should it be 2? 1per.+plural?? I think
> so; but IIRC there was only 1 occurrence here.
> 86/48 = 1.79 mpw, 90/48 = l.875 mpw
> 
> English: 67 words, 98 morphemes. I counted the irreg. past
> tense forms as 2, e.g. could = can+past, was = be+past
> (actually maybe should be 3, to include singular; then
> _were_ (counted as 2) would also be 3, to include plural. Or
> not? what think you? 
> 98/67 = l.72 mpw
> 
> The next paragraph is much longer, but I got
> tired.......maybe later.
> 
> 
> 
> 


      

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