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CONLANG  January 2011, Week 3

CONLANG January 2011, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Fixing English

From:

Douglas Koller <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Shannon" <[log in to unmask]> 
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:55:33 PM 
Subject: Fixing English 

Way back around 1958 or 1959 I stumbled across a book on Esperanto in 
my junior high school library. Of course the very first thing I 
noticed about Esperanto was that there were a lot of things "wrong" 
with the language. It makes sense, then, that my first impulse was to 
"fix" Esperanto and make it "better". However, when it comes to 
"defective" languages English also gets pretty bad marks and it too is 
in dire need of "fixing". I thought it might be an interesting 
conlanging project to "repair" English and make into a "better" 
language. 

Of course before tackling such a project I would need a very clear and 
unambiguous definition of "better". Without some objective standard 
against which to measure the "repairs" how could I know if I were 
truly making the language better, or merely making it different? 

As a retired computer programmer with an interest in artificial 
intelligence, chat-bots, and machine translation, I can use a narrow, 
and purely utilitarian definition of "better" by scoring proposed 
changes on whether or not, and to what extent those changes would make 
the task of computerized parsing and comprehension easier. Difficult 
sentences like "Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a 
banana." must be made unambiguous and easy to parse. 

So the inability to pun is better? 

For this reason, each phrase needs to be marked as to the role it 
plays in the sentence, and each word needs to be marked as to the role 
it plays in the phrase. In English much of this marking is done by 
word and phrase order, so that convention should be retained as much 
as possible. Phrases not marked by order must be marked in some other 
way. The usual method in English is to use a preposition to indicate 
role as in "John carried the books TO school FOR Mary." 

Oh, Sweet Mary of God. As I understand it, one of the strengths of English, beyond imperialism, is its flexibility to modify word-types; a noun can be a verb can be an adjective can be an adverb. 

Within the phrase words with multiple interpretations must be marked 
individually as to their role in the phrase. It must be clear that 
"flies" plays a different role in "Fruit flies..." than in "Time 
flies...". The easiest way to accomplish this design goal is for each 
part of speech to have a unique word ending so that "Fruit.ADJ 
flies.NOUN.PLURAL..." and "Time.NOUN flies.VERB..." will cause no 
confusion. We could, for example, end all nouns with "-(n)a", making 
whatever orthographic changes are necessary to retain the desired 
pronunciation. That might turn "time" into "taima" and "fly" into 
"flya". Plural nouns might end in "-(n)es" so that the plural noun 
"flies" becomes "flyes". 

If adjectives were then given the ending "-(l)i" and verbs given 
"-(r)o" then "fruit flies" would become "fruti flyes" while "time 
flies" would be "taima flyo", and the ambiguity is resolved. 

And the joke dies a merciless death. 

Pronouns could lose their case distinctions, but add an unambiguous 
possessive form so that "I like her." and "I like her sister." would 
use two different forms of "she/her" such as, for example, "I laiko 
shi." vs. "I laiko shizi sistera." 

Phrase order in a sentence should follow strict formats, but the 
templates would have to be numerous enough to allow for a wide variety 
of sentence types. Phrase order might be SP VP OP as a general rule, 
but allow for alterations to that order if the phrases are somehow 
marked to resolve ambiguities. Phrases marked with prepositions could 
appear anywhere within the string of phrases, so that "I gave the book 
to Mary." could also be "To Mary I gave the book." 

In a sense the adverb acts as if it were a prepositional phrase and 
may, like a prepositional phrase, be allowed to float anywhere within 
the phrase structure as long as it is unambiguously marked as an 
adverb: "Quickly I ran to the store."; "I ran to the store quickly."; 
"To the store I quickly ran."; etc... Expressed prepositionally we 
could also say "I ran to the store with quickness."; "With quickness I 
ran to the store."; "To the store I with quickness ran.";... etc. All 
of which assign an unambiguous role to "quickly/with quickness". 

And then pragmatics. Phrase it anyway you want, but "I ran to the store quickly."; "I quickly ran to the store.": and "To the store I quickly ran." mean different stuff. 

These are just a few preliminary thoughts. Another design goal would 
be for the New and Improved English would be that it should be 
reasonably easy for English speakers to learn and use by retaining, as 
much as possible, English lexicon and sentence structure. 

My knowledge of loglangs is limited, yet I still find this disturbing. You can get a three-year old to hear "Put the green ball next to the blue box on top of the red table." and get the desired result. A computer hemorrhages with such a request. Is it not better to get a computer to think our way than to have us think binary? 001001111110001 

Don't wanna be Data, 

Kou 

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