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CONLANG February 2011, Week 1

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Re: SI units in TAKE (was: What does _joule_ rhyme with?)

From:

Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:09:39 +0100

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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 20:20, R A Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 02/02/2011 18:41, Philip Newton wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 23:12, R A Brown<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The only thing I'm rethinking is the use of δζ at the beginning a TAKE
>>> word.
>>> I suspect the combo cause those know modern Greek to shudder
>>
>> Not me. TAKE is not Modern Greek and has its own spelling conventions,
>> not least because the pronunciation of various letters is different.
>
> OK - but it is meant to be fairly faithful to classical Greek norms as
> regards spelling; and that certainly had no δζ.

I see.

>>> The TAKE form is likely to be ζοῦλ (zoûl) [zu:l]
>>
>> I was thinking - if neo-Greek words coined in western European
>> languages (or real Greek words borrowed into them) are spelled as if
>> transmitted through Latin (second-declension neuters ending in -um,
>> kappa turning into |c|, etc.), even if that particular word never
>> showed up in Latin - I wonder whether TAKE might (occasionally) do
>> something analogous and start with an iota? (I'm not sure whether that
>> would end up being /i.u:l/ or /ju:l/. What does TAKE do with things
>> like ιατρός, again?)
>
> Ancient ἰατρός (doctor, physician) simply become ἰατρό in TAKE.

My question was more - is that /i.a.'tro/ or /ja.'tro/?

>> (But it's spelled Jou- in the article on him itself:
>> http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iacobus_Prescott_Joule .)
>
> Yes, I had considered hellenizing the modern Latin _joulium_. But ἰοούλιο is
> IMO particularly clumsy.  Also I am not sure how 'authentic' the modern
> Latin _joulium/ ioulium_ is.

Oh, quite - which is why I would have gone for something based on iul-
rather than on ioul-.

> There is certainly a problem on how to render various SI units in TAKE.
>  I've been mulling over what to do with _mole_ for several days    ;)

What's a molecule? Modern Greek, apparently, calls it a _μόριο_ (which
is, I think, also what grammatical particles are called, for example).
So perhaps μορίσκιο, μόρο, μορίσκο, or something along those lines?

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

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