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CONLANG March 2011, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Whiteboard Script

From:

Matthew Boutilier <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Mar 2011 05:41:38 -0400

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>
> ok, here's what it says, approximately:
>
> אם תתן לי כסף, אקרה לך קפה
> 'im tittōn lī kese*p*, 'aqrah la*k* qa*p*eh.
> if 2ms-give-IMP to-me money, 1s-קרה-IMP to-you coffee
>
> אם היית נותן לי כסף, הייתי קורה לך קפה
> 'im hayī*t*ā nōtēn lī kese*p*, hayī*t*ī qōreh la*k* qa*p*eh.
> if 2ms-be-PER give.ing.ms to-me money, 1ms-be-PER קרה.ing.ms<http://xn--8db1bd.ing.ms/>to-you coffee
>
> i don't know modern hebrew too well and can only go from biblical, but no
> one more qualified has stepped in.
>
> i don't strictly speaking remember what the root Q-R-H (קרה) means - it may
> be related to Q-R-' "to say/read" (cf arabic قرأ to read, whence qur'an) so
> were this true it could mean "to order"; the context implies ordering or
> buying - basically, something you do with money that gets you stuff.
>
> underlining represents post-vocalic non-geminate frication which in the
> olden days affected /b g d k p t/ but in the major dialect of modern hebrew
> applies only to /b k p/ (ie > /v x f/).
>
> מזל טוב
>

aaaaand, as MorphemeAddict will remind, my *lak* should be *ləkā*; we know
the person being addressed is masculine because of the active participles.
so the interlinear is correct and not the transliteration.

matt

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Matthew Boutilier <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> ok, here's what it says, approximately:
>
> אם תתן לי כסף, אקרה לך קפה
> 'im tittōn lī kese*p*, 'aqrah la*k* qa*p*eh.
> if 2ms-give-IMP to-me money, 1s-קרה-IMP to-you coffee
>
> אם היית נותן לי כסף, הייתי קורה לך קפה
> 'im hayī*t*ā nōtēn lī kese*p*, hayī*t*ī qōreh la*k* qa*p*eh.
> if 2ms-be-PER give.ing.ms to-me money, 1ms-be-PER קרה.ing.ms<http://xn--8db1bd.ing.ms>to-you coffee
>
> i don't know modern hebrew too well and can only go from biblical, but no
> one more qualified has stepped in.
>
> i don't strictly speaking remember what the root Q-R-H (קרה) means - it may
> be related to Q-R-' "to say/read" (cf arabic قرأ to read, whence qur'an) so
> were this true it could mean "to order"; the context implies ordering or
> buying - basically, something you do with money that gets you stuff.
>
> underlining represents post-vocalic non-geminate frication which in the
> olden days affected /b g d k p t/ but in the major dialect of modern hebrew
> applies only to /b k p/ (ie > /v x f/).
>
> מזל טוב
>
> matt
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <tsela.cg@
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11 March 2011 22:34, Tony Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> > Not a question.  It is definitely cursive Hebrew.  I can't read all of
>> it,
>> > but can make out many of the letters, and I understand a few words.  The
>> > marks under letters are vowels.
>> >
>> >
>> Agreed. As soon as I saw the picture I thought "cursive Hebrew, without a
>> doubt". I can't read it, but the shape of the He letter (two concentric
>> top-right quarter-circles) is a dead give-away, as well as a few other
>> letters.
>>
>> I am fascinated by cursive scripts (especially those that bear only a
>> passing resemblance to the printed version), which is why I recognised
>> this
>> one immediately :) . It was an easy one. Cursive Greek, on the other hand,
>> can be difficult to recognise without knowing about it beforehand :) .
>> --
>> Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.
>>
>> http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/
>>
>
>

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