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CONLANG  March 2011, Week 4

CONLANG March 2011, Week 4

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Re: Types of etymological relationships

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Jesse Bangs <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:42:40 -0500

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Adam Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> What do you do with new coinages that don't have a "source"?  And what about
> onomotopoeia?

The source field can always be NULL. And isn't onomatopoeia just a
special form of coining?

>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Jesse Bangs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> (Delurking...)
>>
>> I've been working on my multi-language, etymological database for the
>> Yivrian language family lately, and I've run up against an interesting
>> problem.
>>
>> Currently every entry in my lexicon tables has a "source" field that
>> points to the etymon for that word, which is generally an entry in
>> another table. However, I think that I need to make more fine-grained
>> distinctions between different kinds of etymological relationships. I
>> can think of three different relations that I'd want to define right
>> off:
>>
>> * Direct Descent - where the lexical item is directly derived by
>> direct sound change from a source form. The source is an entry in the
>> parent language's lexicon.
>> * Borrowing - where the lexical item is borrowed from a language other
>> than the parent, with some semi-regular deformation to match the
>> target language's phonology. The source is an entry in a lexicon other
>> than the parent language.
>> * Derivation - where the lexical item is formed by a productive
>> morphological process in the same language. The source is an entry in
>> this language's lexicon.
>>
>> Am I missing anything?
>>
>> (My ultimate goal is to build a trigger system in my DB management
>> program so that a change in a proto-lang will automatically prompt me
>> to make corresponding changes in daughter langs or other languages
>> that may have borrowed the item, but that's a long-term goal.)
>>
>> --
>> JS Bangs
>> [log in to unmask]
>> http://jsbangs.wordpress.com
>>
>> "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle" -Philo of
>> Alexandria
>>
>



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JS Bangs
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"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle" -Philo of Alexandria

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