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CONLANG  March 2011, Week 4

CONLANG March 2011, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Conlang Romanization Help Needed: Take 2!

From:

David Edwards <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:56:41 +0800

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If you use something besides an apostrophe for the glottal stop, could you
use apostrophes to mark C+h clusters? This would free you up to use digraphs
like sh, gh, lh, etc. (E.g., /sh/ = s'h, /S/ = sh.)


On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Veoler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > J. Burke wrote:
> > > I need some advice from y'all about working out a good
> > Romanization for my conlang Hanoa?tsi; the Romanization will
> > be used the book I'm working on, where Hanoa?tsi words and
> > names appear now and again.  I've been using my
> > standard APA-based orthography, but I suspect that agents,
> > editors and general readers won't be too happy with that; so
> > I need to replace that with a Romanization.
> > > There are three Hanoa?tsi dialects that contain,
> > collectively, the following sounds, with the Romanizations I
> > have worked out so far on the right:
> > >
> >
> > This is my suggestion:
> >
> > for the vowels, either
> >
> > i~ = i
> > e = e
> > a = a
> > ə~ = ë
> Good-- also easy to type on US Intl. keyboard
>
> > o = o
> > u~ = u
> >
> > or
> >
> > i~ = ĩ
> > e = e
> > a = a
> > ə~ = ã
> > o = o
> > u~ = ũ
>
> I'd go with the first set. As has been pointed out, if a feature (e.g.
> nasalization) is always present it needn't be indicated
>
> >
> > for the consonants
> >
> > n = n
> > t = t
> > d = d
> > k = k
> > g = g
> > ʔ = '
> > ts = c
> > dz = j
> > tʃ = č
> > dʒ = ǰ
> > s = s
> > z = z
> > ɬ = λ
> > ʃ = š
> > ʒ = ž
> > x = x
> > ɣ = ḡ
> Here I'd go with g-breve (O11F) which IIRC is/was used in Turkish, and
> doesn't require adding an uncooperative special diacritic?? Or Greek gamma,
> esp. since you're already using lambda
>
> > w = w
> > j = y
> > l = l
> > r = r
> > h = h
>
> All these consonants (except as noted) are exactly what I'd do.... And
> definitely include a chapter/appendix on pronunciation (and a little grammar
> if necessary).
>

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