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CONLANG July 2011, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Conlang/-culture personal naming practices

From:

David Edwards <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 9 Jul 2011 13:42:32 -0700

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Hiding Waters feayr receive a "common name" a few weeks after they are born,
and a "full name" after a coming of age ceremony when they're about 12.

The names are always verbal complexes (there isn't much else in the language
anymore). The common name is typically established by convention among the
childcare givers based on some defining characteristic or noteworthy
anecdote involving the child.

For example, one male was named Serruktìikúruk because of the way he began
gnawing on elk bones earlier than the other children in his litter. The name
means "they have made him strong," where "they" is classified so as to
suggest the spirits of the elk.

Then, after the generation of children turns 12 (feayr have a set annual
birthing season, so generational boundaries are clearly defined and everyone
within a generation turns 12 at about the same time), they complete the
Ulkushúmnerùir "hunt for names" rite of passage in which each child goes out
into the wilderness and has one month to return with something of value for
the pack--usually a felled animal.

During the feast to celebrate their return, the pack elders give each child
their "full name" in the form of an additional verb complex (or complexes)
that more fully render their common name.

For example, Serruktìikúruk, who returned to the pack with a rare mountain
goat from the high mountains at the far northern extreme of the pack's
territory, received the name Serruktìikúruk kutekikurukátenùishra, meaning
"The mountains he climbed over as he made his way home have made him
strong." The classifier in the original common name usually refers to large
prey animals, like elk, but can also be used to refer to mountains. In this
way, full names can spin the assumed meanings of common names to reflect an
individual's development into adulthood.

The common name continues to be used in day-to-day conversation, with full
names reserved for ceremonial events.

~ David

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> --- On Fri, 7/8/11, David Peterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > In Kamakawi, there are three names: A
> > given name, a tribal name, and a name referring to one's
> > mother. Given name's generally come from animals or
> > characteristics. More info (and name glyphs) here:
> >
> > http://dedalvs.com/kamakawi/names.html
> >
> I'm wondering-- if you give a baby a "tough" name (for ex.), what guarantee
> is there that he/she will actually be so when grown?
>
> Kash naming practices are not dissimilar. I've written it up, but haven't
> yet put it on the website. Names are typically deliberately modified
> versions of adjectives (it's a rule/custom-- you can't use the adjective
> form itself). So from çenjik 'dignified, stoic' we get çenji (M), ceci or
> cece (F); from minda 'happy; to smile' we get mita (M), mina (F). You hope
> the child will grow up to fit the name :-))) In the old days a child might
> be named after his/her father's profession-- thus kroce < keroçe 'sailor'. A
> child can also be named after the day (modified) it's born, but not Vuruna
> or Lalap-- (the two moon days) because they're named after 2 mythological
> characters who violated taboos. Or the time of day (dawn, noon, evening,
> night, whatever).
>
> I suspect that if an adult for some reason comes to dislike their given
> name, it's fairly easy to change it. My understanding is that that was/is
> possible in Indonesia too, though I don't know what the administrative
> requirements were/are (in either case.)
>
> Diminutives can be formed by adding /-ci/, then further truncating that to
> produce a nickname for use mainly by intimates, eg çenji/ci > cici, mina/ci
> > naci.
>
> In the days before the rise of bureaucratic states, people just had one
> name (or a descriptive phrase). Nowadays everyone is required to have a
> surname, usually derived from a location, profession, etc. usually prefixed
> with an(a)- 'child (of)...'. In the few remaining traditional tribal areas,
> this is just administrative folderol; the people themselves  don't give a
> hoot what their surname is.
>
> A few given and well as family names are just plain invented, because the
> people thought they sounded neat......
>
> Bau Da Gwr people have: Clan - Family - Personal name; thus the famous
> linguist Chang Shi Noq Ang is Noq Ang (which probably means something) of
> the Chang clan, Shi family. Other Gwr nations may differ.
>
> I haven't yet figured out Lań-lań names; at the mo I just have a few
> personal names. But their society is divided into moieties (Red/Black) with
> clans in either moeity (i.e. Red Yagan, Black Yagan); plus family names and
> maybe even a location if necessary. But I suspect those are formalities,
> rarely used (though everyone knows their name/place).
>

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