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CONLANG  July 2011, Week 2

CONLANG July 2011, Week 2

Subject:

Why I conlang, was Re: OT: My full legal name is now Sai. W00t!

From:

Nikolay Ivankov <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:59:05 +0200

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Why I conlang?

You know, I can't say that I'm conlanging. In order to do that, I think I
should be able to write at least a phrase in my own conlang. For now I still
can't.

As for many of the folks here, I'm doing it parallel to my conworlding, and
I conworld because I like SF and fantazy, and want to create something
myself. It is not that I'm truing to create conlang for a particular
conculture: rather these are two independent lines that enrich each other
from time to time.

Since I've started conworlding when I was about 7, it is hard to say why am
I doing it. So maybe I'd better tell how do I like to make it.

I like to study things in development: the evolution of universe, of life,
of mankind, of languages. To look at the possible ways the things were and
are and seek for the main principles. And then, by following the general
lines and trying to add some exotic spices, I'm trying to forge something
completely different, but still sane.

In doing that, I'm following two main principles, which I call "English
Garden" and "Chinese Cuisine".

The first one means that whatever I try to create, it should look natural,
as if it has grown by itself. We may plant a tree, we may make it grow in a
more or less desirable form, but we never try to make it look like a cube on
a straight stem - in its growth, the tree follows its own hidden harmony,
which may just be more complicated, but by no means chaotic.

The meaning of the second principle: mix the ingredients in such a
proportion, that you can never guess what the food is made of by its taste.
I think, everyone who tried to make an artlang shares my devotion.

All these directions are controversial, so the main point is to find an
equilibrium when when constantly to push the boundaries of the habitual.

I have to confess, that I'm too theoretical-minded person. I'm finding much
more pleasure in creating grammars and genealogy of a language then in
creating words or even phonology.

So for now I'm not properly conlanging, but rather looking for the seedlings
for my garden and spices for my dish :) Why does it please me so much -
that's the question I' m still (or, rather, already) unable to answer.


On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Amanda Babcock Furrow
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 05:35:55PM -0400, Mia S. Soderquist wrote:
>
> > Lee wrote:
> >
> > >Perhaps that is also why I conlang... To provide another means of
> expression to parts of me ordinarily suppressed in ordinary, interpersonally
> public life.
> >
> > Actually, I've given a lot of thought to why I conlang. I mean, I
> > started out just playing with language, but what is it that drives
> > me to keep doing this all these years later? For me, I'd say it is
> > an attempt to more perfectly express myself and the way I see the
> > world from inside my head. In that regard, it is both meaningful and
> > intensely personal to me, bordering on spiritual. And then there's
> > some tiny part of me with a perverse desire to not be understood.
>
> Interesting!  Why do I (continue) conlang(ing)?
>
> I like having my own private way to say something.  Things sound more
> meaningful in merechi.  This is somewhat paradoxical - they are less
> meaningful to everyone else!  And the greater meaning I find in the
> merechi words is obviously purely invested in them by me - no one
> else could find it by looking at my glossary (my dictionary is mostly
> glosses) or even by analyzing my tiny corpus.
>
> The other languages are sketches (and one relay-quality model), or in
> one case a variant on merechi.  The sketches are just about grammars
> and how good they feel in my mouth.  Yum, grammars.
>
> And in their case, it all comes down to my language drive.  I discovered
> my language drive when I stopped studying Russian after 4-6 years.
> I'd thought I'd outgrown conlanging (despite having found and subscribed
> to this list), but once I disengaged from Russian it all came flooding
> back.  Later whenever I studied Japanese, Arabic, various Native American
> languages, and (sort of) Tokana, my own conlanging dropped off.  (The
> Japanese left some major fingerprints on my verbs, though!)
>
> tylakčhlpė'fö,
> Amanda
> Off to indulge my programming drive as it applies to my need for a
> merechi calendar app...
>

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