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CONLANG  July 2011, Week 2

CONLANG July 2011, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Prime-based numeral systems

From:

And Rosta <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:36:25 +0100

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Jörg Rhiemeier, On 08/07/2011 14:03:
> On Friday 08 July 2011 14:42:52, And Rosta wrote:
>
>> Jörg Rhiemeier, On 08/07/2011 13:31:
>>> There are indeed infinitely many prime numbers,
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> So in a prime-based number system, you can't just go by
>>> multiplication, because for that you'd need infinitely many
>>> basic numeral words.
>>
>> But you could have a system that generates infinitely many numeral words
>> for primes; that is, the primes needn't be morphologically basic, even if
>> they're mathematically basic. For example, each prime could be named "nth
>> prime", where n is its ordinal position by magnitude, in the sequence
>> <1,2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19...>. 19 would be Prime-9, or Prime-3*3 (~
>> Prime-(Prime(3)*Prime(3))), or Prime-2+1^2, or whatever. The productive
>> system of prime naming need only kick in above a certain threshold, so
>> that everyday primes have a short simplex name.
>
> Sure.  That would indeed work - but I think that is monstrously
> inconvenient, especially regarding the recursive naming of higher
> primes as "Prime(Prime(Prime(x)*Prime(y))*Prime(z))" etc.  It may
> be something some computer-augmented "superpeople" could be able
> to handle, but certainly not normal humans - I seriously do not
> want to learn such a language!

I gather that for Jim & Gja Zym Byn, that was part of the intent and the attraction -- IOW, Jim had the desire to learn the sort of language that you seriously do not want to learn...

--And.

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