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CONLANG July 2011, Week 4

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Re: Which came first, the word for "chicken" or the word for "egg"?

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R A Brown <[log in to unmask]>

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On 21/07/2011 17:32, Gary Shannon wrote:
[snip]
>
> That seems like the most plausible scenario. So perhaps
> the semantic seriation can only go back so far to some
> arbitrary starting point, say the language of the
> "Mitochondrial Eve" 200,000 years ago. So we could say
> that all the words in Eve's language are arbitrarily
> deemed to be the "first words".
>

OK - but 200 000 years is still a long time back. We
have manage to more or less reconstruct a hypothetical
Proto-Indo-European - but getting back beyond that is
not so easy. I know there are various different Nostratic
theories around but, as yet, none AFAIK command general
acceptance. As for Mitochondrial Eve's vocabulary, that
can only been speculation at best.
========================================================

On 21/07/2011 18:16, Piermaria Maraziti wrote:
 > On 19/07/11 08:31, Gary Shannon wrote:
 >
 >> The first question would be which are the "day-one"
 >> words? Words that
 >
 > /DELURK
 >
 > Check this:
 > http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/valk/OG_REV.html

I have, and am somewhat under-impressed. It merely
perpetuates standard caveman stereotype of modern
urban myth.

 > It's an RPGs in which you play a caveman and you must
 > speak with other players using only these words (a fairly
 > interesting set of "primeval words", methinks):
 >
 > me you water fire go big small thing hit [the original
 > has bang but the meaning is this] cave sleep food tree
 > furry [perhaps "animal" would be best] stone stinky sun
 >
 > I'd add "danger".
 >

Umm - rather less vocabulary than that used by the UK
Chanel 4 Neanderthals!
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/N/neanderthal/

We have discussed proto-language on this list before and
I've gone on record as saying how profoundly I disagree
with the stereotypical "YOU ME BIG-GO - BIG BIG SMELLY BANG
THING" rubbish.

--
Ray
==================================
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==================================
Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu.
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