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CONLANG September 2011, Week 1

Subject:

Re: "Hire us" in various conlangs with interesting orthographies

From:

Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 4 Sep 2011 05:01:36 +0200

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On 1 September 2011 02:41, Padraic Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>
> Very understandable. Until fairly recently in human history, very few
> people had cushy office jobs. Most people's work was hard physical labor.
> Even common chores were "travails" such that if we made our children do
> them anymore, child protective services would whisk them away on charges of
> child abuse.
>
> And if any among us recall or are otherwise familiar with manual
> typewriters, rotary phones, manual adding machines or speaking tubes, it
> becomes clear that even what were once "cushy office jobs" were also
> pretty hard work!
>
>
I remember manual typewriters (I used to break my fingers on one when I was
a child :) ) and rotary phones. But I'm rather happy that I'm too young to
remember manual adding machines and speaking tubes :) .


> > Now what kind of unpleasant derivation am I going to give
> > the Moten word for "work"? ;)
>
> Hm. Something like Loucarian "isfiare" < Sisyphus + -iare -- a
> mindnumbingly gruelling and utterly endless labour. This is the word
> they use both for the ancient practice of compelled state labour (building
> the pyramids, etc) and also for the compelled labour enjoined upon the
> Pharaoh's special guests by his prison magistrates.
>
>
Actually, looking further into my various notes on Moten, I discovered that
the work-related vocabulary wasn't as inexistent as I thought it was. I
haven't found a general word for "work", but I found a few forms that *are*
semantically related:
- The noun _go_ basically means "job", i.e. any form of voluntary employment
with compensation. So it doesn't refer to slavery nor to volunteer work.
It's also used a lot as a suffix to make job description.
- Moten is extremely poor in derivational morphology, but it does have a few
derivational suffixes that happen to be related to work. The suffix _-vu|z_
basically means "employee". It is used to form job titles. It is used only
to refer to jobs with compensation, whether monetary or otherwise
(basically, anything that is a _go_). The suffix _-non_ also refers to
people having a specific occupation, but instead of being a generic paid
job, _-non_ describes artists and craftsmen/craftswomen (craftspeople?).
With _-non_, the focus isn't on the person having a paid job, but on the
person doing something in an art or a craft. They *can* be paid for it, but
it's not the focus of this form. Finally, there is the suffix _-sif_ which
is used to form generic agent derived nouns. It's basically equivalent to
"-er" in English.

That said, the discussion did help me discover another Moten word related to
work: _izgeboj_. It's a transitive verb with two different meanings: "to
work on" and "to suffer from". Which meaning is meant is mostly inferred by
context, but when the subject is expressed it usually makes clear what is
meant: a volitional subject (in the nominative case) will usually trigger
the "to work on" meaning of the verb, while an experiencing subject (in the
instrumental) will trigger the "to suffer from" meaning.

I'm actually surprised that I had so much vocabulary about work in Moten
already! However, I still don't have a word for "hire". I'll have to look
further into it.
-- 
Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets.

http://christophoronomicon.blogspot.com/
http://www.christophoronomicon.nl/

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