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CONLANG  November 2011, Week 3

CONLANG November 2011, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Base X to Base Y

From:

Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:54:32 -0500

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On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:51:15 -0800, David Peterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Seems like most languages with large speaker populations now have base-10
number systems. This was not always the case. We see vestiges here and there
("eleven", "twelve", "quatre-vingt", etc.), but the systems are actually
base-10.

But "eleven" and "twelve" aren't vestiges of anything.  They're no more on
account of English having had a base 12 phase than French's teens are a
reflection of a base 16 phase.  

>What I'm wondering is what happens when one language switches from one base
to another? I know it doesn't happen overnight, but does the languages that
switches borrow numbers from another language? Is it only after a certain
point? What happens to the old numbers? Some stick around, it seems, but not
all. Anyone have any diachronic data we can look at?

Though I haven't seen this confirmed outside of the linguistics olympiad it
came from, Nenets was supposedly base 9 till Russianisation decimalised it.
 The old number 9 _yq_ now means 10, and 9 is called _xasu-yq_ "Nenets
_yq_"; in one dialect 10 can also be called _lca-yq_ "Russian _yq_". 
The old 9^2 _yur_ and 9^3 _yon*r_ are now 100 and 1000.  
  http://www.zompist.com/rants.html#19
 
http://books.google.com/books?id=0YMU5azMAV0C&lpg=PA526&ots=fIx0MxrVkY&dq=xasawa-yuq&pg=PA526#v=onepage&q=xasawa-yuq&f=false

Alex

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