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CONLANG  November 2011, Week 5

CONLANG November 2011, Week 5

Subject:

Re: laid off

From:

Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:47:20 +0100

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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 03:45, Herman Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 11/29/2011 2:54 AM, Philip Newton wrote:
>
>> German has "feuern" (to fire) and "entlassen" (to let go, to allow to
>> leave, to release one's grip in order to let someone leave) for the
>> actions of the employer; the appropriate passive participle (gefeuert,
>> entlassen) can be used for the lay-off-ee. There's also the prosaic
>> and passive "arbeitslos werden" (to become work-less) and "seine
>> Arbeit verlieren" (to lose one's work).
>
> It always amuses me when another language uses words with the same metaphors
> as English.

And I wonder whether this metaphorical extension was a
loan-translation from English.

> I generally think of "fire" the burning flames, "to fire"
> meaning to shoot projectiles, and "to fire" meaning to terminate employment
> as three distinct words that coincidentally happen to be pronounced the
> same, so when German "feuern" reminds me of "Feuer", it sounds like a
> cross-language pun. I suppose "firing" a cannon would have been done with
> actual fire, which analogized to "firing" other kinds of projectile weapons.
> Then "firing" an employee could have started as a metaphor based on firing
> projectiles out of a cannon.

That reminds me of part of this article:
http://hellenisteukontos.blogspot.com/2009/09/greek-diglossia-and-how-it-isnt.html
(start reading at the paragraph starting "And Puristic has worked its
influence", to the end of the entry).

ObConlang: the influence of the constructed language Katharevousa on
*removing* the link between "fire" with burning flames and "fire" for
shooting projectiles in the minds of Greek speakers.

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <[log in to unmask]>

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